Changes, How do we make them?

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SoWhatif
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by SoWhatif » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:26 pm

I am going to revert back to page 6 towards the bottom and quote what Paislee wrote. The reason being is I am inclined to think that is what triggerd J to feel offended and felt the wanting to pull away from writing concerning her Time piece.

quote,from P
Oh, I did understand that you were hiding your nicer watch and you want to fit in.

I may be in left field and be wrong, as if it was or was not J's trigger. I find it judgmental allthough it still is a assumtion.
In my reading it implies guilt to the involved. It made me react for defense however innocent it is.

And I do not want to be seeming arrogant or rude to P, it is just I need to understand the consequence to someones self esteem. I may be too sensitive but it is more of my 5th senses that has caught me. It happens at other places also and again I dearly respect and admire P all I want is to help give a awareness.

This is another instance where words used caused a hick-up in my git along.

quote,
You make good sense.

As endearing as it is to hear and it feels like getting the pat on the back :D as that I am sure P is implying.

I am not sure how to interpret it. When I read it, flags fly in my head as I am aware of again being put on or get the feeling like I am being graded or must defend. It raises my the self esteem defense whether it was implyed or just learned behaviour when folks do it?
The similar thing goes on in relationships that are out of balance with the partners. It reminds me of a pack leader behaviour, not a interdependant relationship that brings out the best in equall portions.

I am hopeing this will help bring more understanding and have what others views or feelings are also when things like this happen.


Now I must read whats been happening today,

SoWhatif
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by SoWhatif » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:46 pm

I am reading chapt 3 tonight.

3.98$ per gallon for diesel, :evil:

tina martin
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:29 pm

More surprise: I don't have the book. Saw it in the store. Too much competition in my line up for common sense.

Jamie, the hate myself is the huge issue, as I see it. It is the huge issue for many, as I see it. So out comes another Wonder of mine: The Self. I didn't even have a self, as I started my work on myself. I like having them emerge in context. Whatever is eating you up inside needs to be addressed with your psychiatrist. I am not saying anything you don't know. Look how far you've come along. She's a professional, experienced, she's there for you. Can you try and trust her?

You managed to get a job. At this point in our time that's no small achievement. You invested much for it. You followed your interest, you gave much of yourself. Can you give yourself some credit? We give you all the credit you deserve. Please try to have a good night, thinking of all you've accomplished. We extend our Love to you, (one of the 7 Wonders for me).

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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:09 pm

So what if--I read what you quoted me writing back to J. I stated the facts as I saw them, nothing more or less.
Just as I stated you make good sense. Maybe, I didn't elaborate on "your good sense" or maybe used different terminology because I was simply tired but wanted to comment on your comment. P Yep, fuel is going up, both in gas and diesel.

SoWhatif
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by SoWhatif » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:20 pm

Thanks P as I mean no intent, Just using benin (sp) examples of things we can get caught up on that can suddenly change or unchange things we don't exspect.

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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Loveslife » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:12 pm

Hi,
I just got back from my appointment with my psychiatrist, and I did mention the topic of intimacy. It was a painful session but I'm sure it will be helpful in the end.
Anyway, I just wanted to share with you that I was able to be honest with my Dr., but she was careful with how far back she wanted me to discuss. Mostly, we stayed in the present. She said I have been having "flashbacks", which is true. I just didn't know the word for it. My new job is triggering flashbacks to other times in my life, and I'm experiencing sudden "flashes" of memories.
I hope everyone is fine. I worked late last night but have today off, and I'm just going to rest, as I feel exhausted.
I'm sorry I'm not more positive. I will be as soon as I catch up on some much needed sleep.
Take Care,
J.

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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:59 pm

So good, J, that you opened the subject. She's very smart to approach it slowly and with care.

Your need to feel that you must apologize for not being more positive is telling. If you ask me, between the media and culture, there is a near demand to be cheery, cheery, positive, upbeat, etc. I come from earlier times when everyone was not portrayed in near hysterical states of laughter and bliss. There was imperfection, there was solemnity, which are just about vanished. Oh, I can be a revolting critic, I admit myself.

Have a good rest, J, always remembering how much you have achieved. Never be concerned about posting. When I was still working I could not have posted one coherent sentence.

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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:42 pm

Tina, I like your comment about how in the past people were not portrayed in hysterical laughter and bliss, as what we get today. I think it is good to be allowed to be sad and not have to have a smile on your face all the time.

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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:40 am

Of course, I was concerned that I even said anything along these lines. So, thank you, Paislee, for your comment. It seems to me we are easily thrust into a world of unreality on the outside and the inside. What does that do to us psychologically? Anything good? Life in its full dimensions and stages is buried on the one side with Botox and surgery and on the other with pills and other addictions.

Now I'm happy to report that the last of my 7 Wonders is Freedom in all its dimensions, including the image makers. I like Charlie Rose for many reasons but also because the bags under his eyes rival mine. I imagine him free on the inside. Jane Fonda, my peer, had to get herself plasticized and pretend she is 40 again with her new workout DVD's. And on the inside? She got herself a new beau who dances with her every evening. Maybe I can teach The Old Man here to dance, to end this rant on a positive note. Because, in fact, I believe in positives as long as they are mine and not someone else's. Freedom.

Loveslife
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Loveslife » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:58 am

Hi All,
Tina,I too like your comment that in the past we were not portrayed in a state of hysterical bliss and laughter. There is a time and place for everything, and every emotion.

I just watched the most recent video of Charlie Sheen, and here is a perfect example of the media exploiting a very sick individual. He is clearly in a manic state, and unraveling right before our eyes. To show his videos and make fun of him is incredibly insensitive.

We have an opportunity to shine a light on mental health, and the different symptoms of a possible manic state from bipolar, and instead the media is laughing at him and making fun of him.

I hope and pray that he is helped soon by a team of psychiatrists, because his condition is worsening quite quickly. He reminds me of one of my stepsons in his current state, and it is helping me to understand more about bipolar, or manic states, if you will.

Mental health still carries such a stigma, and it shouldn't. His brain is broken, but can be fixed. I fear though that there will be a point of no return.

So, that is my rant for the day.

Yes, Freedom. Of course Tina would think to include freedom in her list of wonders. Beautiful. Do you know how beautiful you are Tina? Even if you have circles under your eyes that rival Charlie Rose, you are still beautiful.

Love,
J.

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