Misunderstanding Scriptures-guilt,Low self-esteem, Lack of Confidence

The spiritual response to anxiety and depression
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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:38 pm

Perhaps I should have said at times we choose sin. I'm not always precise in my word selection. Even as born again, washed clean believers, sometimes we choose to sin over dong something God's way. Joyce Meyer's daily devotional "Battlefield for the Mind" refers to negative thinking as sin. Not the thoughts to come to us, but the ones we entertain and become a part of our thinking. God tells us to think on lovely, pure and of good report and the God of peace will be with us. So when we dwell on things that we know are not things God would have us dwell upon, then we don't have peace. Otherwise, we are thinking on things that Satan wants us to believe, not the truth. I totally believe that I am washed clean of sin because of the blood of Jesus (thank you God!!!). I also know I don't live perfectly and I still have to bring any sin to confession for MY benefit and obediance to Him. I believe that when He saved me, He saved me for past, present and future. So by sinner, I don't mean that I am unsaved, but instead that I am less than what God would have me to. Is that clearer? :}

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:16 pm

Rod -

If I may share a thought - you said you need indept answers. I know that personally we all have the gift of personal revelation available to us, but here is how it has worked for me in the past, usually my answers did not come forth immediately. They would show up weeks, months and even years later - CLEAR answers through the scriptures, or life experiences to specific questions that I had. I think God knows exactly the best way for each of us to learn and it is rarely through directly answering a question. Jesus taught through parables because he knew that the true definition of "to educate" was to draw out from within.

It is through moving forward in faith trusting that at the appropriate time you will receive personal insights that you will get them. I never got them by staying put until I got my answer. You don't need a minister to give you your answers, they are already inside of you - but they are not accessable intellectually, it will be via the Spirit.

I doubt that any church will have a better resource for anxiety than this program. It will be through moving forward in the program in faith that God will give you the scriptural connections - through your own personal revelation.

Well, that is my personal testimonial. I may not have phrased it well, but I know you can find the answers that you seek. You have all the tools that you need.

All the best!

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:58 pm

BobsDiane, I now understand clearly what you meant
originally.

Scrappy, I have had those revelations (seeing the real truth behind a given scripture) but as in my original post at the beginning of this thread I did not include the questions I still have. Some scriptures are unclear at this point and the Doctors/Authors I mentioned in a post earlier tonight have talked to many people with anxiety/fear and have a list of the most common questions to scriptures, except they don't explain indepth as I desire. I need immediant answers so I can move on with my life, and I know someone has already asked and been given an answer that would clear them up for me.

AGAIN I ask, is anyone aware of a ministry that works with anxiety striken people?

Let's keep this thread going with the answers others have received and now feel better about their Christitan walk.

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:08 pm

More on the scripture of being perfect like God. Joyce Meyers----
Perfection is a state God's grace places us into through our faith in Jesus Christ, and He works in and through us in degrees of glory. We must learn to see ourselves in Christ, for when we look at Jesus, you will be at rest. There is perfect and there is perfected. This is a simple way of saying that God has made us to be perfect, and we are growing into it.
It is like a child saying "My mommy gave me her wedding dress to use when I get married, and I am growing into it year by year. It is still my dress, even though it does not fit me yet.

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Post by Guest » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:39 am

One thing that God lead me to study was grace. It all started with a book that my counselor suggested called "Search for Significance". It was an awesome book, revealing a lot of my erroneous thinking. From there it was Beth Moore's study "Believing God". Also very awesome. Then it was reading on grace - Grace Walk (Steve McVey), What's So Amazing about Grace? (Philip Yancey), and Grace-based Parenting. They were all instrumental in reminding me that God is a God of grace too. I think in many ways, God is answering the very prayer that I prayed that He would help me to "clean house". I never realized I was a person of anxiety, but after what I have learned, I can see it all through my life. I think I was convinced that I had to earn my way, even after accepting the sacrifice of Jesus for my sins. Looking at this, it seems like God is taking us all through steps to get to the place where He wants us to be. I think of Paul, who seems like a super disciple, but also wrote the veres about doing what he doesn't want to do, and not doing what he wants to do. I understand that! Perhaps all of our internal conflict has to do with the internal groanings that we have about longing to be with God, in His presence, made totally right and free from sin.

I would love to come up with a mantra of sorts to begin moving my thinking in the right direction. One that I could say to myself several times daily until it becomes a part of me, covering God's love for me, His knowledge that I'm not perfect, my desire to serve Him in whatever way He sets before me, but trusting Him to grow me up and show me where He wants me to serve Him. Or something like that that leads to healthy right-minded thinking as a Christian who loves God and trusts Him. Think we could generate one by putting our heads together?

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