Blasphemous thoughts - please help!!

Worrywoman · Post by **Worrywoman** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:00 pm

Hi Mel,

It's amazing how many others there are just like us, so we must know we're not crazy, or bad (although it certainly feels that way). I feel so panicky and shaky everytime I hear it and it makes me repeat until I don't hear it, but that makes it worse!!! I am always late getting out in the morning because I need to repeat the cycle of prayers until they feel right and I do not hear the wicked thoughts. It's debilitating, but I know God gives us the strentgh to overcome!! I pray for us all, keep in touch with the group, we need to support each other!!

WW

fredcz · Post by **fredcz** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:26 pm

To worrywoman:

You are so right! The thoughts are not you!

They are 100% OCD, a medical disorder. God, who knows everything knows how you Love Him. He sees deeply into your heart, even more than you do, and he knows the thoughts are not real, NOT sinful.

You can permit these thoughts to exist, try not to pay attention to them. They'll overwhelm you every time. Go on to the next thought or do something pleasant for at least 5 minutes. If you make it to five, go for 10 minutes or more BUT DO NOT DO THE COMPULSION THE OCD IS TELLING YOU TO DO. Lie to your OCD and say "I'll do it later or think about it later" But the compulsion will only encourage more obsession. WHO NEEDS IT? Not you for sure!

The more you allow these thoughts to come and go without a cumpulsion, the more likely they will fade. God is a God of Peace, but the worry about the basphemous thoughts turns Him into a terrorist!

Anticipate that the thoughts will come, it's part of a bad habit. But ACCEPT them when they do come as 100% OCD. And you can do it with my priestly permission. Pray, go to Communion, and do not avoid any activity because it's likely to "cause" bad thoughts. If these thoughts occur they carry no sin whatsoever. St Alphonsus would back me up on this.

Find a regular Confessor whom you can trust and abide by his wise counsel. He has the grace of his ordination and the Confessional to protect you both. Do this ASAP.

You might also join Scrupulous Anonymous by logging on to www.ligouri.org and following the leads to the SA newsletter. This has been helpful to me, personally and I hope it will be for you.

Bye for now and God bless you!

Your pal,

Fr Ed (fredcz)

mel23 · Post by **mel23** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:47 am

thanks ww, iknow exactly how you feel, i didnt know where or who to talk to bout this situation, i was always embarrassed and asahmaed i held it in for over a year, went to the altar on every call, memorized several verses, went to bible studys, such as battle field of the mind, wich is a really good book, didnt get me out of this, but i did learn alot. i finally decided to tell my pastor and what a releif, he was so understanding, said i wasnt crazy or weird that their is alot of people who go through this, took alot of pressure off of me by telling him, satan would attack me more i think cause he wanted me to feel alone. i would question my salvation constanly, and would ask god why? i learned that god allows us to go through trials and tribultions maybe for our testiomony to help someone else.. and i beleive yours is helped me worry woman,,god bless and i will be praying for all...

Worrywoman · Post by **Worrywoman** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:27 pm

Hi Fr. Ed and Mel23!!! Both of your responses brought joy and comfort to my heart. God is working through us and I thank you both for hearing my fear. I pray for us each day! I will allow the thoughts to come, and should expect them on a daily basis. Fr. Ed, it's going to pain me so much to NOT repeat prayer in my head more than once, the enemy is going to work overtime but I know God works ALL the time, 100 thousand% more. Peace be with you......and thank you!

fredcz · Post by **fredcz** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:51 pm

ww:
Start out slowly, and if you find the thoght repeating in your mind, tell it that you will think about it later and try to delay it for five mins. If you make it, go for more, but even if you repeat the prayer, tell yourself it is only a cumpulsion and I will do better the next time. But try to keep busy with something good. The thoughts don't matter and aren't sins so if they do not go away it is no big deal, you
know what they are and you are learning not to pay attention to them. God be with you as you break this bad habit with better ones!

fredcz

sandy krahn · Post by **sandy krahn** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:08 pm

Blasphemous thoughts. You are not alone, that's for sure. As a matter of fact i am troubled because i use to do Bible study and Sunday meetings etc.,etc., And now i find myself not even wanting to attempt to connect with God. i had some experience with certain people who were suppose to be representatives of my faith and i was very disappointed in them and now i find myself totally turned off from my faith and i was of this faith for 27 years. i'm struggling for a way back and in the mean time i find myself mad at the whole religious scene. i know it's not right but i got tired of being judged by these people. And now i'm afraid to go back to it for fear i will not live up to the expectations of others. i'm sooooo confused right now and it's sent me into a state of depression like i was in before this program.
Lost and confused,
Sandy

James1986 · Post by **James1986** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:15 am

Sandy, let me say this, the enemy knows how to make us/you quit he's been here about 6500 years, he has studied man for a long time!! He knows what and who you love IE: The Lord Jesus Christ, now the thoughts may have started with him as it did in my case, but you may have OCD. Now let me tell you I have struggeled with this for over 2 years and just now can I accept that OCD is a real disorder. I'm a Baptist and I am very cautious when It comes to this but I think it is real. Now the advice I give you I need to apply to my own life so don't think I'm doing good, I get bombarded evry day evrey hour. Even now.I know how it feels to see your brothers and sisters stumble and fall, this has also happened to me , they are stummbling blocks, but you need to seek the LORD. Being judged is not fun however God is the only Judge so please Him. God isnot the author of confusion!! And as far as the depression I know you want to stay in bed and sleep and do nothing, but trust me I don't have meds for it though I'm trying to get some, it is better to get out of bed and go see people or read your Bible that to stay in bed. I know this sounds hard but trust me it is hard but God knows you can. As a matter of fact he knows where you are right now in your darkest times and guess what he doesn't like peolpe doing you the way they have either. I really hope this helps!

Worrywoman · Post by **Worrywoman** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:31 pm

I am having such horrid thoughts that I am ready to lose control. Please can you pray for me??!!! I feel like it's getting worse when I try to "accept" the thoughts and just let them go, it really hurts to do this!!!

Fr. Ed - why does my mind say these horrible things to our Dear Lord and all the those Holy? I am so frightened, please help!

Shifrah · Post by **Shifrah** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:42 pm

Worrywoman, I will pray for you. Try to let the thoughts dissolve. Don't avoid, and don't entertain either. It seems difficult. Might want to busy yourself with something to get your mind off it.

James1986 · Post by **James1986** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:11 am

Worrywoman, please try to do something else when they come. Let me ask you aquestion, does it feel like 2 persons inside you. I know from childhood I suffered from this: if you don't finish this in 30 secs. then you sell your soul to well you know. Seems like everyday it was like this, and after I got saved well the thoughts changed to my Lord Jesus Christ. I hate it, 1 thing that helped me yesterday was to not pay attention to them. How I don't know I just didn't, now today is different but maybe this could start me breaking free. I'll pray for you.