Congratulations! Keith Joy.
I am so happy for you.
I am sure that you'll be able to help many others who are starting their journal.
I have enjoyed your posts.
God bless!
MaryJane
minister's wife
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Keithjoy...First, I want to congratulate you on completing this program!!! I am sooo proud of you...Are you feeling better, since, you have finished???
Secondly, I am not a minister's wife, but, my dad was a Baptist minister, and my brother is a deacon, as well as, a minister.
I can relate to you all in so many different ways. After, I finished the program, I actually stopped going to church for an entire year.
I had suffered from agoraphobia, panic attacks, and depression for 21 years of my life, and I just wanted to get out and enjoy my life for a change, since, I felt like I had been let out of a prison. I wanted to make up for those lost years, and that is what I did...
I remember thinking how the "spirituality" part of the program did not fit into my "spiritual" beliefs. I had to find a happy medium there for my own self.
I have been a christian for 21 years, now. I, too, love the Lord with my whole heart, soul, mind and strength.
I remember how God really got my attention, after laying out of church for sooo long.
My daughter became very sick with her heart.
She developed a condition known as "idiopathic cardiomyopathy"...It is a really serious condition.
I knew in my heart that this was my "wakeup call"...I truly felt with all my heart that God was allowing this to happen to get my attention.
I made a vow to God if He would take care of my child, that I would get myself back into church, and that is exactly what I did.
I attended church that very weekend. I prayed so hard for my daughter.
Two weeks later, I received a phone call from the hospital giving me miraculous news. They said that the heart condition had reversed itself, and that is was no longer life-threating. They explained that that chamber of her heart was no longer engulfed with blood...
I can remember praising God all the way home. I knew that He had healed my daughter, and I will continue to praise Him...For He is Worthy...
If you know anything about this condition, then, you know what a miracle God did for my child...He is my "All and All"
I truly believe that Jesus is our personal Savior, and that we will know in our own hearts when we are doing something that is not pleasing in his eyes. He will get our attention, and we will know it for our own selves...
In my case, it was not what I was doing that was wrong, because I was just having clean fun...It was me not putting God first, and going my own way that got me into trouble....
I would suggest to anyone who has left the old path they used to follow with Jesus...All those who have gone astray...To find that old path, once again, and walk thereon...
This is one part of the program that didn't work in my particular case...God wanted me in church, and I had to go, and I am sooo thankful that I listened....God Bless
Secondly, I am not a minister's wife, but, my dad was a Baptist minister, and my brother is a deacon, as well as, a minister.
I can relate to you all in so many different ways. After, I finished the program, I actually stopped going to church for an entire year.
I had suffered from agoraphobia, panic attacks, and depression for 21 years of my life, and I just wanted to get out and enjoy my life for a change, since, I felt like I had been let out of a prison. I wanted to make up for those lost years, and that is what I did...
I remember thinking how the "spirituality" part of the program did not fit into my "spiritual" beliefs. I had to find a happy medium there for my own self.
I have been a christian for 21 years, now. I, too, love the Lord with my whole heart, soul, mind and strength.
I remember how God really got my attention, after laying out of church for sooo long.
My daughter became very sick with her heart.
She developed a condition known as "idiopathic cardiomyopathy"...It is a really serious condition.
I knew in my heart that this was my "wakeup call"...I truly felt with all my heart that God was allowing this to happen to get my attention.
I made a vow to God if He would take care of my child, that I would get myself back into church, and that is exactly what I did.
I attended church that very weekend. I prayed so hard for my daughter.
Two weeks later, I received a phone call from the hospital giving me miraculous news. They said that the heart condition had reversed itself, and that is was no longer life-threating. They explained that that chamber of her heart was no longer engulfed with blood...
I can remember praising God all the way home. I knew that He had healed my daughter, and I will continue to praise Him...For He is Worthy...
If you know anything about this condition, then, you know what a miracle God did for my child...He is my "All and All"
I truly believe that Jesus is our personal Savior, and that we will know in our own hearts when we are doing something that is not pleasing in his eyes. He will get our attention, and we will know it for our own selves...
In my case, it was not what I was doing that was wrong, because I was just having clean fun...It was me not putting God first, and going my own way that got me into trouble....
I would suggest to anyone who has left the old path they used to follow with Jesus...All those who have gone astray...To find that old path, once again, and walk thereon...
This is one part of the program that didn't work in my particular case...God wanted me in church, and I had to go, and I am sooo thankful that I listened....God Bless
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Hi Karenleigh,
I am not a minister's wife, but I do have my own Christian ministry and guilt is way up there at the top of the list. We sometimes feel that our faith should be sufficient. I think because we know how a Christian should be, that we beat ourselves up when we aren't the perfect Christian.
What I have learned over the years is that my anxiety and depression is an illness, just like any other. If I had diabetes or cancer would I feel guilty?
Our heavenly Father knows us better than we know ourselves. In this world we live in we need all the help we can get.
But like Jesus said,"Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need". Yes, we need spiritual help just like we need medicine. So, I am in total agreement with you that there is room for both.
I read and study alot, so I am trying to do a little of Bible reading and a little of the program each night, or alternate nights.
Remember we are perfectionist and there is no such thing as perfection. We just have to do the best we can!!! Hold on and keep praying.
I am not a minister's wife, but I do have my own Christian ministry and guilt is way up there at the top of the list. We sometimes feel that our faith should be sufficient. I think because we know how a Christian should be, that we beat ourselves up when we aren't the perfect Christian.
What I have learned over the years is that my anxiety and depression is an illness, just like any other. If I had diabetes or cancer would I feel guilty?
Our heavenly Father knows us better than we know ourselves. In this world we live in we need all the help we can get.
But like Jesus said,"Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need". Yes, we need spiritual help just like we need medicine. So, I am in total agreement with you that there is room for both.
I read and study alot, so I am trying to do a little of Bible reading and a little of the program each night, or alternate nights.
Remember we are perfectionist and there is no such thing as perfection. We just have to do the best we can!!! Hold on and keep praying.
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Hey Celyon,
I was shocked to see someone writing to me. I havn't been on this "topic" since feb. I actually have been off the community until about a week ago.
I got real down when they changed the website. It left me feeling very alone. I talked to the WebAdmin. about it. They talked like it may go back to the way it was. I don't know.....
Anyway...I apreciate your encouraging words. I think I have let guilt run my life and I feel like I don't know how to stop it. I know I beat myself up alot.
It's like I got this hang up about not being good enough to be a preahers wife. I know in "my head" none of us are good enough for God.
I will say that before I did the program I was 100 times worse than I am now. I was just like Carolyn. When she said on one of the tapes...when Jesus was nailed to the cross I felt the nails. That was me. Anytime there was an alter call. I was one of the first down there. I use to cry at every service.
Then when I did the program. Things started to change in me and I think it scared me a little. I didn't feel the urge to go to the alter as much. I stopped crying at every service. I stopped feeling guilty for every little thing
and to be honest It felt good but then I started questioning my faith and my compassion.
I have had anxiety and depression for almost 20 yrs. I'm 37 and I think it's going to take a while for things to change.
Thanks again for the post. I believe God knew I needed to hear from someone today. It has helped me more than you will ever know.
Take care and God bless
I was shocked to see someone writing to me. I havn't been on this "topic" since feb. I actually have been off the community until about a week ago.
I got real down when they changed the website. It left me feeling very alone. I talked to the WebAdmin. about it. They talked like it may go back to the way it was. I don't know.....
Anyway...I apreciate your encouraging words. I think I have let guilt run my life and I feel like I don't know how to stop it. I know I beat myself up alot.
It's like I got this hang up about not being good enough to be a preahers wife. I know in "my head" none of us are good enough for God.
I will say that before I did the program I was 100 times worse than I am now. I was just like Carolyn. When she said on one of the tapes...when Jesus was nailed to the cross I felt the nails. That was me. Anytime there was an alter call. I was one of the first down there. I use to cry at every service.
Then when I did the program. Things started to change in me and I think it scared me a little. I didn't feel the urge to go to the alter as much. I stopped crying at every service. I stopped feeling guilty for every little thing
and to be honest It felt good but then I started questioning my faith and my compassion.
I have had anxiety and depression for almost 20 yrs. I'm 37 and I think it's going to take a while for things to change.
Thanks again for the post. I believe God knew I needed to hear from someone today. It has helped me more than you will ever know.
Take care and God bless
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hey Ms. T Bones,Celyon, and karenLeigh... you guys have really touched my heart tonight... tears, yes, but uncontrolable crying, no... you see, Jesus has just become real again to me since last Monday night when i was able to visit with my sister in Colorado and unload a huge guilt bubble i had been trying to hold underwater since 1988... sooooo your comments and sharing on guilt stirred my soul... why do we think that we can handle this life on our own?... perfectionist... i always use the excuse that God tells us in the Bible... "be perfect..." in several different places... so i strive for that perfection... always falling short... but my sister reminded me that JESUS did that... he DIED for our guilt so why do i think i have to carry it??????? HE'S the PERFECT ONE... to serve HIM with a humble heart and admit we are not perfect is what HE wants in us.... wheeeewwwwww.... i let go of the guilt and now am feeling free, alive and able to serve HIM again... we need each other to bear one another's burdens and lift each other up in our times of need and rejoice with each other when we rejoice... so, thanks for responding i love each of you just like my sister and i know GOD is teaching us all to lean on HIM through each other... thanks for sharing with me... i look forward to many new lessons as i continue to learn from HIM and you... karenLeigh, i was saddened to hear of you alone-ness... i, too, had been feeling that way... thanks be to God ... HE doesn't leave us there.... and Celyon, you are an inspiration to me with your ministry... i hadn't met you before tonight... thanks for encouraging us, and Ms. T Bones... i just love you... thanks for sharing the call back to a living, loving relationship with Jesus... HE remains soooooooooooooo faithful... you guys are an unmeasureable blessing to me... continue ... we can persevere with the support and encouragement of one another.... much LOVE,
kj
kj
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Hey keithjoy,
I am so happy for you. It sounds like alot of good things have been happening in your life. You have been an encouragement to me. When I read your post I can tell you have a strong solid faith in God.
I wanted to ask you...have you visited that website that Iwantmylifeback told us about? I did and wanted to join but it wouldn't work. It might be my computer
It looked like a great website.
Take care and God bless always!
I am so happy for you. It sounds like alot of good things have been happening in your life. You have been an encouragement to me. When I read your post I can tell you have a strong solid faith in God.
I wanted to ask you...have you visited that website that Iwantmylifeback told us about? I did and wanted to join but it wouldn't work. It might be my computer
It looked like a great website.
Take care and God bless always!
well, i tried to join too but it wouldn't work for me either... iwantmylifeback told me that the lady in charge of it was recovering from hepatitis A or B... she was going to look into it,... but for now, it's not your computer... just another opportunity for us to "wait on the LORD"... (hahaha)... so how are things going for you now?... i hope much better since you are back in the forums... much LOVE,
kj
kj
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Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking now that I may not be able to join. My husband stopped pastoring in Dec. of 08. He has been preaching alot at different churches. This Sunday he is going to be preaching at our old church. It's been 5 months since we left. I'm trying hard not to focus on me and this anxiety.
There have been a few "things" that have been brought up since leaving. It makes it hard to go back and of all days...Mothers Day!
Oh well maybe God's testing my faith. I'm sure it will make me stronger if I can go.
Talk to you later....God Bless
There have been a few "things" that have been brought up since leaving. It makes it hard to go back and of all days...Mothers Day!
Oh well maybe God's testing my faith. I'm sure it will make me stronger if I can go.
Talk to you later....God Bless
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JakeandRysmomma
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i'll be praying for you... whatever you decide to do will be the right thing for you... God wants you to celebrate HIM and that's what's important... so.... gee, i remember going back to the church we pastored for 10 years... it was HARD... because, as you say, people talk and if they don't get the facts, they just make them up... not really caring if it hurts or not... it's too bad that God's children behave this way... but they do and our job is "remember to just LOVE them"... we are the ones set aside to show the higher road and the upper room of prayer and communion with HIM... so just think of what HE had to go through with public humiliation ... it puts it in perspective... even though it doesn't make it any easier... HE IS our example... and LOVE is HIS LIFE in us... and from my heart to yours..."HAPPY MOTHER's DAY":)
much LOVE,
kj
much LOVE,
kj