Constant thoughts
Hi all,
I try to reason with the wisdom of Christ, and follow Him and stay fixed on Him. When I am at my weakest, I am at my strongest. Try to understand that, the wisdom of man is foolishness to God and those in Him and the wisdom God is foolishness to the them that consider themselves scholars and philosophers of the world. When you walk by Faith and not by sight, that is when you see Him in all His Glory, but you need your spiritual eyes to see Him otherwise you will miss Him.
If you find it hard to believe, or closed your mind off to this type of religious talk; then look at this reasoning below, it is something I shared this morning with another friend that I am sure they would not mind sharing this, if I didn't:
I had to make some minor grammatical corrections, but the basic premise is still in tact. I hope my friend reads this and that my clear meaning comes through to them.
Thanks for taking the time to follow this. High Anxiety, see if the StressCenter.com can send you a copy of the work book, I get so much more out of reading than listening to her voice, but that is just me, but I think you will get a lot of help if you can get your hands on a copy of that work book. It is worth it's weight in gold, and you will find it to be an excellent investment.
If they could, or would think of making an on line version of the work book and sell it on line, people could print out many of the forms they suggest that we use for self evaluation, that is so helpful in helping many see it with their own eyes from their own prospective. Thanks again for your forbearance.
I will try to draw Carolyn's attention to the possibilities of an online version of the work book. I love the internet, for all the ease at getting information out to people. don't you?
It's all about love,
I try to reason with the wisdom of Christ, and follow Him and stay fixed on Him. When I am at my weakest, I am at my strongest. Try to understand that, the wisdom of man is foolishness to God and those in Him and the wisdom God is foolishness to the them that consider themselves scholars and philosophers of the world. When you walk by Faith and not by sight, that is when you see Him in all His Glory, but you need your spiritual eyes to see Him otherwise you will miss Him.
If you find it hard to believe, or closed your mind off to this type of religious talk; then look at this reasoning below, it is something I shared this morning with another friend that I am sure they would not mind sharing this, if I didn't:
In Lucinda's work book, I think I read it in session 1 there is a story about people that move to a new town and they ask a shop keeper what kind of town it is, and how are the people. Do you remember this account or side bar story?
That is so on point, but I think a lot of people miss this. I picked up on this right away, and left the rest in the Lord's hands and it has served me very well. It is simply this. If your mental attitude projects negativity, you will radiate negativity, and get back negativity. If your attitude projects positive energy, it attracts more positive energy, and you will have a constant supply of positivity.
So like the song says, Don't worry, Be happy. Don't take the negativity that the world has to offer. The world has a lot of positivity to share. It is our choice, so when you go shopping for an attitude, fill your basket with nothing but positivity and you can't help but be happy! Pick and choose wisely that is true on this forum and that is true in life...
We are daily visiting this super market of attitude choices. The specific Forums are the aisles we shop or browse for stuff that we will eat or spit out. Shop wisely, once you see what and where the best choices are, you don't keep buying the same stuff, if it is bad for you. There is no difference here. Sure you try stuff you what to give a trial to, but if it doesn't serve you well, don't buy it again.
You spread happiness, and it comes back to you in everything you touch and in everything you do... you have already learned this in life, and this is huge in conquering all the negativity that comes your way. This is called wisdom.
The whole idea is that you can chose to be happy or sad. Driven by events or charting new courses to soar with your happiness.
These things are infectious, and they do grow. The question is, How do you want it to grow, and what will you feed it? You are responsible for what you eat. Does: "...you are what you eat make sense now..."?
Sure it takes me some time to get to things, I want to pepper it and season it with as much flavor as I know how to give it. So that folks can say, oh man alive, that was sooooo good. I want more of that.
I had to make some minor grammatical corrections, but the basic premise is still in tact. I hope my friend reads this and that my clear meaning comes through to them.
Thanks for taking the time to follow this. High Anxiety, see if the StressCenter.com can send you a copy of the work book, I get so much more out of reading than listening to her voice, but that is just me, but I think you will get a lot of help if you can get your hands on a copy of that work book. It is worth it's weight in gold, and you will find it to be an excellent investment.
If they could, or would think of making an on line version of the work book and sell it on line, people could print out many of the forms they suggest that we use for self evaluation, that is so helpful in helping many see it with their own eyes from their own prospective. Thanks again for your forbearance.
I will try to draw Carolyn's attention to the possibilities of an online version of the work book. I love the internet, for all the ease at getting information out to people. don't you?
It's all about love,
Last edited by Gman5256 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
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highanxiety
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Hi,
Ive been getting help. Therapists are coming to visit me at my home which doesnt make me feel very normal but they help reassure me. I'm managing to go to work just about. My mind is always on my anxiety though. I dont know how to think about anything else. When my bf asks me a question im always somewhere else and im like what did you say?? Im scared im inward thinking to much and i will turn into a cabbage. My meds dont seem to make me feel any better atm. my new thought is maybe i will not strangle someone because i wouldnt be able to but maybe I could lash out or punch someone completley go crazy. This thought about going crazy really scares me. My therapist keeps saying i am making myself ill, I know I am making myself ill but i cant seem to stop obsessing like ive forgotten how to be normal or something. When im around people i try to breathe in and out but i never feel completley at ease. I just want to feel how i used to feel. My hands tremble all day long which is horrible and people keep saying how thin i look. The anxiety is still there at the pit of my stomach. I would hate to go insane because then they lock you away forever. I think my main fear is what everyone thinks of me and what everyone will say i think thats an issue i need to get over.
Ive been getting help. Therapists are coming to visit me at my home which doesnt make me feel very normal but they help reassure me. I'm managing to go to work just about. My mind is always on my anxiety though. I dont know how to think about anything else. When my bf asks me a question im always somewhere else and im like what did you say?? Im scared im inward thinking to much and i will turn into a cabbage. My meds dont seem to make me feel any better atm. my new thought is maybe i will not strangle someone because i wouldnt be able to but maybe I could lash out or punch someone completley go crazy. This thought about going crazy really scares me. My therapist keeps saying i am making myself ill, I know I am making myself ill but i cant seem to stop obsessing like ive forgotten how to be normal or something. When im around people i try to breathe in and out but i never feel completley at ease. I just want to feel how i used to feel. My hands tremble all day long which is horrible and people keep saying how thin i look. The anxiety is still there at the pit of my stomach. I would hate to go insane because then they lock you away forever. I think my main fear is what everyone thinks of me and what everyone will say i think thats an issue i need to get over.
Hi High Anxiety,
I am so glad that you are feeling, at least a little better. For some reason, I am thinking that even reading anything at these moments, and most any efforts that you are making seem to be a wasted effort, but at least some of it.
I will pray for you, and as urgently as I can, make myself heard, I ask that you let these songs minister to you. It is a lot better than most anything else you can try to do for yourself, at least at this time.
Don't just blow this off. I care about you, and I want you to get healthier and stronger, and I know everyone else feels the same desire. However, there is only so much we can do here. If you feel that you need someone to hear you out, and be there for, you email me, and we can exchange numbers, so that we can talk and listen together. In the mean time, as best you can, listen as closely as you can, to all of this and dig in for more:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...dio/allthingsnew.htm
I will pray and lift you up in church for others to pray for you.
This Love will leave you SPEECHLESS
I am so glad that you are feeling, at least a little better. For some reason, I am thinking that even reading anything at these moments, and most any efforts that you are making seem to be a wasted effort, but at least some of it.
I will pray for you, and as urgently as I can, make myself heard, I ask that you let these songs minister to you. It is a lot better than most anything else you can try to do for yourself, at least at this time.
Don't just blow this off. I care about you, and I want you to get healthier and stronger, and I know everyone else feels the same desire. However, there is only so much we can do here. If you feel that you need someone to hear you out, and be there for, you email me, and we can exchange numbers, so that we can talk and listen together. In the mean time, as best you can, listen as closely as you can, to all of this and dig in for more:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...dio/allthingsnew.htm
I will pray and lift you up in church for others to pray for you.
This Love will leave you SPEECHLESS
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hi Hianxiety,
I too surfered from scary thoughts and the same as yours at one point. Oh I feared i was going crazy and that was for 7yrs..... When i first got the anxiety attack it was back in 2002. I started having obessesive thoughts that i was goin crazy and i could see my self getting locked up in a mental hospital. I had these thoughts for 7 yrs until i got the program and realized i wasnt going anywhere.... it was me making myself sick to my stomach because i had unrealistic thoughts. they may seem real feel real but they are not real. remember that please. I;ve had scary thoughts of hurting my girls. But i would never do such a thing. it was for 7 yrs i had crazy scary thought and would visualize my self doing these things but they never came to pass. I studied the program for 1 yr and i can honestly say it has been the best tool i've ever had. I will be honest i was taking paxil for a short while then stopped taking them for a long time. i then needed to get on another med called celexa and that i took while i was on the program but b4 the end of the program i didnt need them any more. i've been of them 1 yr to be exact and feel great about it. Pls use me as a guide that i've never acted on my scarythoughts. NEITHER WILL YOU. i know what ur feeling thinking i've been in your shoes ok. Your going to be alright listen to your therapist take your meds. try to change the med to lexapro my friend is on them and they have worked wonders for her. get the program please get her books panic to power that will really help u calm down alot. email me if u like. Take care. Just Thoughts ok.... got panicaway.com and read their articles on scarythoughts also got to pacnicenter.net great website. Good Luck.
I too surfered from scary thoughts and the same as yours at one point. Oh I feared i was going crazy and that was for 7yrs..... When i first got the anxiety attack it was back in 2002. I started having obessesive thoughts that i was goin crazy and i could see my self getting locked up in a mental hospital. I had these thoughts for 7 yrs until i got the program and realized i wasnt going anywhere.... it was me making myself sick to my stomach because i had unrealistic thoughts. they may seem real feel real but they are not real. remember that please. I;ve had scary thoughts of hurting my girls. But i would never do such a thing. it was for 7 yrs i had crazy scary thought and would visualize my self doing these things but they never came to pass. I studied the program for 1 yr and i can honestly say it has been the best tool i've ever had. I will be honest i was taking paxil for a short while then stopped taking them for a long time. i then needed to get on another med called celexa and that i took while i was on the program but b4 the end of the program i didnt need them any more. i've been of them 1 yr to be exact and feel great about it. Pls use me as a guide that i've never acted on my scarythoughts. NEITHER WILL YOU. i know what ur feeling thinking i've been in your shoes ok. Your going to be alright listen to your therapist take your meds. try to change the med to lexapro my friend is on them and they have worked wonders for her. get the program please get her books panic to power that will really help u calm down alot. email me if u like. Take care. Just Thoughts ok.... got panicaway.com and read their articles on scarythoughts also got to pacnicenter.net great website. Good Luck.
Live, Laugh, and Love Well.
Just wanted to say that I suffer from agoraphobia and extremely scary thoughts. I KNOW what you are going through. I am just returning back to work, I have called off from time to time. I am at work right now. I am afraid I am going to start yelling out of nowhere or when I am at home I feel like hurting my boyfriend. Deep down I love him and I have cried for feeling like I might hurt him. He has been the only one there for me since my Mom passed January 13, 2007. I have asked myself, "why would I want to hurt the one person who has been there for me and I KNOW loves me?" I struggle too.
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highanxiety
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Thanks every1 for all your responses this site is brilliant! Well ive had a good couple of days and Pilarnh i am going to work and having those same thoughts as you that you will start yelling and screaming out of nowhere another scary one!! Maybe our fear deep down is that we will make a fool of ourselves I can honestly say that this is the hardest thing i have ever gone through, i wish i never had these scary thoughts in the first place. Why has this happened i dont know my whole family know and all they ask me is why this has happened and honestly i dont know. But i am trying to take baby steps to fully recover. But the horrible doubt and unease i feel is just awful, like i think maybe i wint do something now but maybe i will in a couple of days ARGHH! I just wish this scare voice would go. On the plus side i can see an improvement with the zoloft.
i have negative thoughts as well that i have aids and i know that is not true because for starters i went and got tested and all came out negative but the thoughts are still there. the anxiety is there but not so much the depression and i am functioning everyday and going to work and trying my best not to allow this negative thought make me feel bad about myself more than i already have. i am very hard on myself and beat myself up for many yrs now due to being abused and mistreated as a child and i am learning to love myself more. i am trying my hardest with the negative thought to over ride it with positive ones and i am able to distract at times when i am at work or out or when i am with my family but like you hianxiety i wake up and go to sleep with this thought in my head but i know that God is good and he will help me through this tough time in my life that has been taken place for the last four months and yes the program does but we all have to work hard at it to make sure it works for us with faith in ourselves and faith in God.
Dhylles
Hi little brothers and sister in distress,
I have been here for a little over 2 months, and this forum has been a blessing to me. I have been in such a depression that I always thought this what I was suppose to expect. I have been in depression for over 20 years more like 30 or so it seems.
For me, I hit a low point in this journey when My mom died in Nov 1994. I didn't think I could go to any lower point in my life. I was wrong. Since my Deliverance in 1983, and rebirth shortly after, I dug deep to disprove the existence of God and buried myself in 1000's hours of study, determined to prove that He did not exist, only to come to the simple truth that God is!
He speaks to me in so many different ways, and you can refuse to believe it, but He talks to us in everything you see, touch, smell, feel, and sense. He speaks to us in beautiful poetry and prose. He speaks to us in song. He speaks to movies. He shows Himself in expected and unexpected people, places and things.
I constantly try to share some of how He speaks to me in the lyrics, and musical arrangements on this site that I post up as a link to many people:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...radio/speechless.htm
This particular album speaks very powerfully to me. In it is a song, called "With Hope." I have struggled with a phrase in that song that has had me troubled since I heard it.
Many of you don't know that I hit my lowest point last year when I saw the suffering my kid sister went through as her liver was totally destroyed. This is not an exaggeration when I tell you I suffered with her. I as I held her and she projectile vomited quarts of blood blood until she had none, as the Trauma unit technician fought to pump blood into her to save her. I saw my sister fade out, only to rise again with such a will to live that it staggers the imagination.
I saw her her spirit pull right out of her body and only the screams and waling of her daughter brought her back to us. She lived for 1 more year after that desvastating experience. Nearly every month after that, she had to be rushed to the hospital as she slipped to one coma after another until all her suffering was so unbearable that I had to talk to her to tell her, we were all okay, and we would all be fine, then and only then did she finally let go.
She wanted to be there so badly for her daughter to help her raise the little baby that was still in her daughter's belly. The pain and suffering was just too over whelming to overcome. You don't know how much I loved my little sister. She was my pal. I could on count on her to watch my back and I hers no matter the challenge. It had to be this way. The neighborhoods we were raised in were virtually living hells. But what she was suffering was worse than hell itself, and as badly as it hurt me to say it, I had to encourage her to let go, and everything would be okay.
The phrase that I struggled with and all her struggle, Is that we all have the great expectation of a wonderful life with the Lord in those mansions in the sky, but the hardest thing is that we have to let go with Hope.
What God spoke and let me understand is that it is okay to hold on to all the cherished memories of all those that we loved and have gone before us. He wants us to hold on to that love and keep those wonderful memories close to our hearts, but He also holds out the hope for seeing their face again.
Please don't hate me for talking about God, He loves all His children those that believe and those that don't believe. He wants you to enjoy all of His creation. Because He did it all for us. All of us. Doesn't the rain fall and the sun shine on all of His creation both the good and bad? Please download this poem that the Lord put on my heart last week: http://aie-llc.com/hisall.doc
Come with the greatest expectation that He is able to heal your pain and suffering. If you are a non believer, and say that how could God allow the suffering that your sister suffered?
I can tell you that God gives us the right to choose how we live our lives. Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. Choices we make impact our lives and He allows it just as you love your pet and give it the choice to move about freely and do as it pleases. There is no difference.
You never no know when your moment in time of reckoning will come. You have the moment. Live your "next 5 minutes like it was the last 5 minutes to start all over again." Seek him and you shall find Him. It will be different for every one. But I was moved to share these points about my struggle with the "letting go with hope." In the mean time, treasure each moment that you have and those that have gone before us, but keep the hope alive; that you will see their face again, thanks to someone laying their life for all of our sakes. Treasure everything, before you know it, you will reach the end of the road and others will reflect just what and how that dash meant to you and everyone you touched.
Please visit and see this short movie:
http://www.thedashmovie.com/
Enjoy every minute for the joy it brings you and Him.
I what I really want to say is: He loves all of us. Believe it. I do believe and I have walked this life's journey as a Great Adventure full of so many precious moments. Enjoy it an savor each and every moment you have the privilege to have.
Don't worry be happy!
I have been here for a little over 2 months, and this forum has been a blessing to me. I have been in such a depression that I always thought this what I was suppose to expect. I have been in depression for over 20 years more like 30 or so it seems.
For me, I hit a low point in this journey when My mom died in Nov 1994. I didn't think I could go to any lower point in my life. I was wrong. Since my Deliverance in 1983, and rebirth shortly after, I dug deep to disprove the existence of God and buried myself in 1000's hours of study, determined to prove that He did not exist, only to come to the simple truth that God is!
He speaks to me in so many different ways, and you can refuse to believe it, but He talks to us in everything you see, touch, smell, feel, and sense. He speaks to us in beautiful poetry and prose. He speaks to us in song. He speaks to movies. He shows Himself in expected and unexpected people, places and things.
I constantly try to share some of how He speaks to me in the lyrics, and musical arrangements on this site that I post up as a link to many people:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...radio/speechless.htm
This particular album speaks very powerfully to me. In it is a song, called "With Hope." I have struggled with a phrase in that song that has had me troubled since I heard it.
Many of you don't know that I hit my lowest point last year when I saw the suffering my kid sister went through as her liver was totally destroyed. This is not an exaggeration when I tell you I suffered with her. I as I held her and she projectile vomited quarts of blood blood until she had none, as the Trauma unit technician fought to pump blood into her to save her. I saw my sister fade out, only to rise again with such a will to live that it staggers the imagination.
I saw her her spirit pull right out of her body and only the screams and waling of her daughter brought her back to us. She lived for 1 more year after that desvastating experience. Nearly every month after that, she had to be rushed to the hospital as she slipped to one coma after another until all her suffering was so unbearable that I had to talk to her to tell her, we were all okay, and we would all be fine, then and only then did she finally let go.
She wanted to be there so badly for her daughter to help her raise the little baby that was still in her daughter's belly. The pain and suffering was just too over whelming to overcome. You don't know how much I loved my little sister. She was my pal. I could on count on her to watch my back and I hers no matter the challenge. It had to be this way. The neighborhoods we were raised in were virtually living hells. But what she was suffering was worse than hell itself, and as badly as it hurt me to say it, I had to encourage her to let go, and everything would be okay.
The phrase that I struggled with and all her struggle, Is that we all have the great expectation of a wonderful life with the Lord in those mansions in the sky, but the hardest thing is that we have to let go with Hope.
What God spoke and let me understand is that it is okay to hold on to all the cherished memories of all those that we loved and have gone before us. He wants us to hold on to that love and keep those wonderful memories close to our hearts, but He also holds out the hope for seeing their face again.
Please don't hate me for talking about God, He loves all His children those that believe and those that don't believe. He wants you to enjoy all of His creation. Because He did it all for us. All of us. Doesn't the rain fall and the sun shine on all of His creation both the good and bad? Please download this poem that the Lord put on my heart last week: http://aie-llc.com/hisall.doc
Come with the greatest expectation that He is able to heal your pain and suffering. If you are a non believer, and say that how could God allow the suffering that your sister suffered?
I can tell you that God gives us the right to choose how we live our lives. Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. Choices we make impact our lives and He allows it just as you love your pet and give it the choice to move about freely and do as it pleases. There is no difference.
You never no know when your moment in time of reckoning will come. You have the moment. Live your "next 5 minutes like it was the last 5 minutes to start all over again." Seek him and you shall find Him. It will be different for every one. But I was moved to share these points about my struggle with the "letting go with hope." In the mean time, treasure each moment that you have and those that have gone before us, but keep the hope alive; that you will see their face again, thanks to someone laying their life for all of our sakes. Treasure everything, before you know it, you will reach the end of the road and others will reflect just what and how that dash meant to you and everyone you touched.
Please visit and see this short movie:
http://www.thedashmovie.com/
Enjoy every minute for the joy it brings you and Him.
I what I really want to say is: He loves all of us. Believe it. I do believe and I have walked this life's journey as a Great Adventure full of so many precious moments. Enjoy it an savor each and every moment you have the privilege to have.
Don't worry be happy!
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
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