new here to this site
hey everyone dhylles here. new to this site and suffering from depression and anxiety. i did not realize that i have been depressed for a while now. i started having anxiety attacks last year June 2008 and have had minor attacks since then. the depression just makes me feel tired and restless and really drains me out. my negative thoughts are horrible and i try to override them with positivity and prayer and it is the hardest thing i have ever had to deal with in my life. i know i will be okay and i am glad that i am not alone in this struggle to get better. i wanted to know if anyone else has thoughts that they have hiv/aids in the back of their minds eventhough they have been tested and are perfectly fine? that is my negative thought and the only negative thought day in and day out for the past three months now. It has like a record playing in my head all day long. The only time i don't think about it is when i am busy at work and doing something that requires alot of focus and thinking. I am a worrier by nature and over analyze things too much but never have i been this harsh to myself. I just started the cd/dvd and i hope it helps me get over this struggle so i can live a happy and normal life. God will all will be okay with me.
Dhylles
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Hi, I want to reassure you that you will feel better and you will improve. You have started the course, and that is a very big first step in getting better. Try to monitor your thoughts as if you are an observer of your thoughts. I found it very helpful to have a small book which I could write down my thoughts as I observed them. It was very interesting to go back through them and see what maybe had triggered an attack. You will find many of the old timer's of Lucinda's program like me on here because we sometimes take a step back, or just want to give others a little help. Good luck, Jackie
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Hi D,
Welcome. I empathize with all of what you said. I have been in a depressed state for quite some time, and at times get anxious about my future because of what has broken me down physically.
I will spare you the details and suspect that if you really want to know you might check out some of my post replies or topics I have started you will look for them and read them. I have only started 2 topics and although I have been here since the end of January to mid February 2009, I think this program has helped me a great deal.
I can tell you that I have gone through several positive changes that have really helped me. It really is a process that you go through. But you have to understand, that it is you working the program and building yourself up through you studies of the program and yourself, that makes it work. I hope you find this encouraging.
I guess the best way, I can think of it, and this has just actually dawned on me, picture yourself as an NFL team. Your ultimate goal is to win the super bowl. Well how do you get to the championship game? By studying and training for each weeks game opponent.
The training requires a pre-season mini camp. That's your intro and coaching DVD to the program. Once the season begins in earnest, you have to study. Each week you have a new opponent, your new study session, that requires you to study your opponents (panic, anxiety and depression and the multiple disorders that are associated with these main opponents) habits and tendencies. After each game, (each week's session) an assessment is done on the status of your players physical and mental condition to undergo the training regimen for the next weeks opponent. This program is quite the same.
When you are bruised from the prior week's session/game, you have help from trainers (the people that are here) to help get you through the next week's training session and game and then it's out come.
Notice that during the NFL season, seldom does any team win every game, and it is not always the team with the greatest number of wins that wins the ultimate contest (recovery). During this process you will have set backs. That's why NFL teams study training films of their own play as well as their opponents. They study what they did wrong during the game, so that they can make adjustments to learn from those mistakes, and through those adjustments, find the keys to make themselves better players (that's what journaling is about).
However, if you do not go through the training seasons each week, at a time, journal tendencies and achievements, or get support when you need it, you will definitely suffer setbacks.
When the NFL teams have similar breakdowns or set backs, they can slip off their usual training regimen and slip into a losing streak, that requires much more extensive training and or physical/mental conditioning to snap them out of the losing streak to get back on a winning track.
No NFL team, excluding the Packers, as they one the first 2 Super Bowls, ever won the Super Bowl, in their first season. Many teams have gone to the final game and never won the Super Bowl (Minnesota Vikings). Some times, like the case of Dallas, they went to the Super Bowl several times but did not win every time.
What did they do when they don't win? They go back to the drawing board to see what they need to do to win it all. That is what you must do in life. You don't chuck it all, you bounce back and comeback stronger to achieve your goals. Picture your ultimate achievement, your recovery, as the Super Bowl Champion! What next? I am going to Disney World
That's it. Study and learn from your past defeats, but do not linger in past, especially since you can not change the past. All you can do is learn from past errors, and strive, as best you can, to avoid the errors of the past. When you do that. That is when the past struggles and defeats make you stronger.
As you go through the sessions and the journaling you will discover what has really been holding you back in the past an unable to move forward. That is what is the cause of your depression.
When you are in paralysis about moving forward because you are projecting a negative outcome, you can't move forward. That is what churns up anxiety and panic. You will learn how to float through those times and make it to the next play as NFL teams do from play to play.
NFL teams have to make real time game adjustments and so will you. No, every play is not going to lead to a touch down, most off tackle runs ever do, but those are plays designed to wear down the opponent and hopefully lead to a game breaker play.
That means that some of the sessions will seem boring or like drudgery, but it is the end result of the overall scheme, that leads to a touch down, that then helps you to win that game or get through that session. "Eyes on the prize."
You will learn just where you set yourself up for failure. I can see many just on your first post, and you will too, once you practice and work the program.
I hope this exercise has helped you to see the overall prospective through these analogies. I hope it was good for you. I know it was good for me.
We ought to meet again to see if things work out.
BTW, you will learn to make this a habit. In you message window, right click, select all and then right click select copy before you click post now. If you don't it will lead only to frustration.
Stick to both, the program and your prayer life, and God's unfailing hand will help to carry you through all of it.
Welcome. I empathize with all of what you said. I have been in a depressed state for quite some time, and at times get anxious about my future because of what has broken me down physically.
I will spare you the details and suspect that if you really want to know you might check out some of my post replies or topics I have started you will look for them and read them. I have only started 2 topics and although I have been here since the end of January to mid February 2009, I think this program has helped me a great deal.
I can tell you that I have gone through several positive changes that have really helped me. It really is a process that you go through. But you have to understand, that it is you working the program and building yourself up through you studies of the program and yourself, that makes it work. I hope you find this encouraging.
I guess the best way, I can think of it, and this has just actually dawned on me, picture yourself as an NFL team. Your ultimate goal is to win the super bowl. Well how do you get to the championship game? By studying and training for each weeks game opponent.
The training requires a pre-season mini camp. That's your intro and coaching DVD to the program. Once the season begins in earnest, you have to study. Each week you have a new opponent, your new study session, that requires you to study your opponents (panic, anxiety and depression and the multiple disorders that are associated with these main opponents) habits and tendencies. After each game, (each week's session) an assessment is done on the status of your players physical and mental condition to undergo the training regimen for the next weeks opponent. This program is quite the same.
When you are bruised from the prior week's session/game, you have help from trainers (the people that are here) to help get you through the next week's training session and game and then it's out come.
Notice that during the NFL season, seldom does any team win every game, and it is not always the team with the greatest number of wins that wins the ultimate contest (recovery). During this process you will have set backs. That's why NFL teams study training films of their own play as well as their opponents. They study what they did wrong during the game, so that they can make adjustments to learn from those mistakes, and through those adjustments, find the keys to make themselves better players (that's what journaling is about).
However, if you do not go through the training seasons each week, at a time, journal tendencies and achievements, or get support when you need it, you will definitely suffer setbacks.
When the NFL teams have similar breakdowns or set backs, they can slip off their usual training regimen and slip into a losing streak, that requires much more extensive training and or physical/mental conditioning to snap them out of the losing streak to get back on a winning track.
No NFL team, excluding the Packers, as they one the first 2 Super Bowls, ever won the Super Bowl, in their first season. Many teams have gone to the final game and never won the Super Bowl (Minnesota Vikings). Some times, like the case of Dallas, they went to the Super Bowl several times but did not win every time.
What did they do when they don't win? They go back to the drawing board to see what they need to do to win it all. That is what you must do in life. You don't chuck it all, you bounce back and comeback stronger to achieve your goals. Picture your ultimate achievement, your recovery, as the Super Bowl Champion! What next? I am going to Disney World
That's it. Study and learn from your past defeats, but do not linger in past, especially since you can not change the past. All you can do is learn from past errors, and strive, as best you can, to avoid the errors of the past. When you do that. That is when the past struggles and defeats make you stronger.
As you go through the sessions and the journaling you will discover what has really been holding you back in the past an unable to move forward. That is what is the cause of your depression.
When you are in paralysis about moving forward because you are projecting a negative outcome, you can't move forward. That is what churns up anxiety and panic. You will learn how to float through those times and make it to the next play as NFL teams do from play to play.
NFL teams have to make real time game adjustments and so will you. No, every play is not going to lead to a touch down, most off tackle runs ever do, but those are plays designed to wear down the opponent and hopefully lead to a game breaker play.
That means that some of the sessions will seem boring or like drudgery, but it is the end result of the overall scheme, that leads to a touch down, that then helps you to win that game or get through that session. "Eyes on the prize."
You will learn just where you set yourself up for failure. I can see many just on your first post, and you will too, once you practice and work the program.
I hope this exercise has helped you to see the overall prospective through these analogies. I hope it was good for you. I know it was good for me.
We ought to meet again to see if things work out. BTW, you will learn to make this a habit. In you message window, right click, select all and then right click select copy before you click post now. If you don't it will lead only to frustration.
Stick to both, the program and your prayer life, and God's unfailing hand will help to carry you through all of it.
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thanks for the strong words and encouragement and the football analogy although i do not watch sports but i do understand what you mean and where you are coming from in many way and i do appreciate all the help i am recieving from this program and everyone on this site and i will be fine with the program and God's help.
Pauline
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I hace been depressed off & on for 14 or so yrs. I tried to start the program & started having panic attacks which I haven't had for 12 yrs. I am afraid to go any futher with it cuz of this. I am afraid to do this alone. I am afraid of a lot of things. I cry very easily right now & don't know why. I really need help & companionship to do this. Started program in Jan & stopped beginning of Feb cuz of fear of havivg panic attacks again. Please help me find courage. Or should I not attempt the program at this time?
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Hey Kimberly, you are not alone. always remember God is always with you. it is a scarey thing to go through anxiety and depression. i find that crying is just releasing all the hurt and pain and anger you have inside yourself so let it out. don't be afraid to cry. i used to feel the same way you do. it is okay that you stopped but try again and see how far you can get and how much you can do and accomplish. give yourself credit for atleast trying to do the program. i we can do in this world is try. i am here for you when you need me. this is not easy for me either but i am praying and trying everyday to make a positive and new step in my life. just take some time to clear your head which is the hardest thing to do i know from personal experience and take your time with the program and the lessons and when in doubt use the customer service number. they are there to help you along the way. look me up anytime on here.
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Hi all,
Hi my little peanut. I love peanuts, especially the chocolate covered on, the sugar coated ones, the ones with toffee smeared all over them, roasted, and just plain salted ones. As much as I love them, I have to watch out for all the toppings on the little goobers. But I can still love them.
Thank you so much for taking time to read through all the stuff I say, not just here, because I can tell you are really following and staying focused on the recovery. If you weren't you might just pass up what I have posted up, as it appears so many other do.
No matter what, you stay positive and focused on the prize. Some days will be tougher than others but you will just float through as if nothing is going to deter you.
Lots of big hugs to you and to all that have been touched by what God has put in my heart to share with all who care to get and stay focused on the prize of recovery. I will continue to pray for all here.
Gotta go, I am going to step out in confidence, and go to church to do some fellowshipping.
This is a huge hurdle for me so wish me luck.
Hi my little peanut. I love peanuts, especially the chocolate covered on, the sugar coated ones, the ones with toffee smeared all over them, roasted, and just plain salted ones. As much as I love them, I have to watch out for all the toppings on the little goobers. But I can still love them.
Thank you so much for taking time to read through all the stuff I say, not just here, because I can tell you are really following and staying focused on the recovery. If you weren't you might just pass up what I have posted up, as it appears so many other do.
No matter what, you stay positive and focused on the prize. Some days will be tougher than others but you will just float through as if nothing is going to deter you.
Lots of big hugs to you and to all that have been touched by what God has put in my heart to share with all who care to get and stay focused on the prize of recovery. I will continue to pray for all here.
Gotta go, I am going to step out in confidence, and go to church to do some fellowshipping.
This is a huge hurdle for me so wish me luck.