Question about Homosexuality...

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MrCleveland
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Question about Homosexuality...

Post by MrCleveland » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:38 pm

I'm having a heated argument from a Gay Person, he says "You're born Gay"! I don't think so, I just feel that when you start growing up, you make choices and express your feelings. Some people who are gay express it more than others, but can anyone be born gay or is that an excuse for Gay People to just flaunt their pride?

mosaic1989
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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by mosaic1989 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:51 pm

Wow that is a hot topic. It is really hard to know. I have come to understand, that it may be biological predisposion comined with opposite mascuine/femine qualities. These people need to feel they are accepted and loved for who they are. I think a very determined person could leave this lifestyle, but it would take a lot of determination change and need for a partner that would be able to accept their perhaps more feminine qualities. Sometimes a masculine woman and feminine male make great partners. But ultimately it is the person who is homosexual to decide if it is important enough to want to change. Personally the blame for it may be many, including biology and dealing with this crazy old world. A difficult issue. Good luck.

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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by tina martin » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:52 pm

There is absolutely no question in my mind that sexual orientation is genetic, inborn, and innate. Who in their right mind would ever choose it if it were a choice? Why would someone not believe what a gay person says, knows first hand?

If the mythology about it could be put to rest, imagine the suffering that could be alleviated for so many. To say nothing of hate crimes.

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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by MrCleveland » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:53 am

What angered me was I had an argument with someone who's gay. He said "You're BORN Gay" and he HAD to be right and I had to be wrong!

I hate it when I'm wrong, because I had to let him win and I wind-up being the loser! :x :x :x

mosaic1989
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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by mosaic1989 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:47 pm

I think there are many things in our world that are very complicated, sometimes it is just not so black in white, the general population is struggling to make sense of it all. May be one day we will understand it better. I think many of us struggle to accept it, it's not comfortable, we didn't grow up that way. Younger people accept it pretty well they grew up with it being somewhat normal. It is not an easy issue, I think we can accept people's choices but not completely understand them. I certainly don't have it all figured out and I doubt that everybody does have it figured out. We definitely don't life in a black and white world anymore, which is probably for the better but it makes it more difficult to sort out many questions. I think once the hoopla dies down and time is allowed to pass there will be more answers. But don't beat yourself up for your views, we are all evolving. Take care,

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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by perspectivegirl » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:33 pm

I agree full heartedly with tina martin. It disturbs me when people think that one would make their own choice, that they would on their own decide to accept all sorts of hatred. Who would choose the negativity from society, sometimes being ostracized and unloved from their own family, hate crimes both physical and emotional- who would choose that for themselves? I personally believe that sexual orientation is just like your hair color, you're born with it and if you're changing it then it's fake.
Also, as someone who is 20 years old, I can say that I've grown up in an era where being gay or lesbian is okay and an growing to be more accepted. I can't be more thankful for the people that have paved that road for me and strove for equality!
Why hate? Love everyone.

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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by tina martin » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:58 pm

This warms my heart perspectivegirl to the extent that I am glad it came up. Thank you for joining in. And I can add I am old, of another generation, but have first hand experience with the gay community. It was a total unknown to me and I was not the greatest all the time. But I was willing to listen, to learn, to understand, to open my mind and heart and, as you say, to love.

This is not a win/lose issue; it is a win/win issue. Gays can and must be true to themselves, be at one with their true nature. We can accept them, appreciate them, include them, help them to be strong amidst the bias that is still out there.

MrCleveland
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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by MrCleveland » Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:14 pm

Now I don't hate Gay People, why should I hate them?

My opinion is that you don't wake-up one day and you're Gay. Sometimes...you just discover it when you're older.

I might just as well agree to disagree with some people.

mosaic1989
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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by mosaic1989 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:40 pm

I think this is a place when can respect each other even when we disagree. I hope everyone had a good day today. We are not always going to understand each others opinions. I see that in politics all the time people villianize each other for their viewpoints, and deep down inside we are not all that different from one another. This is a hot topic and I believe that I would side with those who say all people are created equal in regard to respect and dignity. There most probably a biological roots to homosexuality, but I think it's one of those things we just need to accept but perhaps this is a place we need extra support when it comes to our feelings, sometimes we need to look beyond the issue to the person behind it. Well I wish everyone well and hope the holidays have been good for everyone.

MrCleveland
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Re: Question about Homosexuality...

Post by MrCleveland » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:01 pm

I called a Christian Friend and I asked him the same question....

He talked about James Dobson, who said people who are gay had a bad homelife when they were young and probably had low self-esteem. He also said the gay community isn't as gay as many would think...many of them are unhappy.

Does this seem right?

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