Depersonalization

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NyGirl7
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Post by NyGirl7 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:01 am

Can someone please help me on this...This is my biggest most persistant sympton...but I keep trying to researh it on the computer which is a big msstake because Im reading all kinds of different things...I've had this about a month now, although it's not severe and doesn't stop me from doing anything, in fact I feel better only when socializing, it's when I get bymyself or time to think is when it really worries me. does anyone have this and is it really from anxiety? They don't mention it much on the tapes. What really scared the crap out of me is when I came across some sites that said it's a seprate mental illness and not really anxiety and it could last years and years...well now Im REALLY worried. HELP!

Thanx

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:25 pm

NyGirl
I have been there. I watch the Discovery Health Channel and it gets me all freaked out, and like you I research it. They symptoms match and I am afraid that I have some terrible disease that is masked by anxiety. The best thing you can do is don't research it at all. I know its hard and tempting, but it is only going to make things worse. Instead of getting overwhelmed by your thoughts, try telling yourself you are strong and healthy and nothing bad is going to happen. Hopefully this helps a little, but don't worry I have been there

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:25 pm

hi,
when i used to have panic and anxiety i had the same thing. i learned to use the skills and tools that i recieved from the program to beat it.
i can laugh at in now and i told my wife about it and she told me that if i ever forget who she is lol. they she will boop me on the head and then i will know.
sometime you have to throw a little humor in with it to give it something to laugh about.
in time you will see that it is not as bad as it appears. learn to go with it and it will cease to exist.hope that it helps what i said.take care and good luck and be blessed.
don

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:41 pm

Never hread or that. But boy can I relate. Im a contractor so I have a lot of free time. But 3 yrs ago we moved about 60 miles from where I grew up. So I have no friends up here to socialze with. With the bad ecomy I have more time to myself and its misserable. I love being around people. So with the free time I have i have nothing to do but think and it sucks. I will be sure to check this out. It dont sound goodand thats about how I feel.If you find out more about this please let me know please. my email is on mt profile, and for sure we need to find more about this. Thank you for bring it to my attention.I sorry I cant help with this now but maybe someone else will know something about this.good luck with this and maybe between the 2 of us we can figure this out.

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:11 pm

Thanx for the replies!

I actually know what it is, I definitley know that it's depersonalization, but my worry is, not even so much WHEN because Im prepaired to wait it out or do anything to help calm down until it passes like my other symptoms, my worry is WILL it go away, it sounds so discouraging when people say they had it everyday for 10 years, 20 etc...it's like I feel unfamiliar in my own skin, my preception has changes somehow. I keeo looking at pictures before this happened (which were only a few months ago) and Im telling myself, wow, I actually used to feel normal...

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:27 pm

NyGirl7,

DR/DP has always been the running line down the center of my depression and anxiety.

It comes and goes, BUT like everything under the sun-it is DIFFERENT for everyone. There are types and degrees of this disorder.


Please download this ebook- you will be glad you did

<A HREF="http://www.dpmanual.com" TARGET=_blank>www.dpmanual.com</A>


It is soothing and comforting and easy to understand. Please stay away from DP communities, they are not like this community and you will just end up hurt.

Amazon has an Overcoming DP/DR book too that is very comforting.

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:51 pm

Thanx, I will buy this...

Ill tell ya, anyone reading this, KVSDiva said a mouthfull, STAY AWAY FROM DP FORUMS!!! OMG they say the most frightning, negative things and stories, I read one for 10 min and thought my life's over there is no hope for this symptom!

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:10 pm

Hi Everyone!! This was the oddest thing. I came on here tonight to write a post on this horrible symptom and low and behold it was number one on the list. I'm hoping that is a good sign. I have absolutely scared myself to death with this. I think I had it in High School when I was extremely stressed, but I got rid of it for years and it's back in full swing. It is very difficult to describe and of course we all feel like we have it the worst of all and no one else feels this bad. I know that's not the case but when you can't describe it, it's even worse. I seem to have it all day everyday. I feel like a foreigner in my own body and like my thoughts aren't mine. I get through everyday and do what I normally do, but things seem different. I look at others and wonder who they really are and that's what I feel about myself. I just want to feel normal again, whatever that used to be like. I'm afraid it won't go away. I pretty much have low lying anxiety everyday, but even when I don't feel anxious I feel like this symptom still exists. They say high stress levels take a long time to go back to normal and when they keep fluctuating, they stay in high gear even when you don't feel it.

For me, I feel like this symptom is worse at night time. Does anyone else feel that way?!?

Like everyone here, I did research and it scared me to. Most of the research I've done said it comes from anxiety, but I've heard people with epilepsy can have it and I'm thinking oh my gosh. Anyway, I think I'm just such in the mind set now that I can't get my brain out of the pattern. Subconciously that's all I think about. Maybe it's like everything else, we think it and keep thinking it and it gets worse. The deeper we think about who we are and you can't wrap your mind around it, you freak out. I'm hoping it's just a thought cycle we can break. Anyone have any advice?!? I just don't want to live like this for another year. I also don't want to tell anyone because they might think I'm crazy. I seem to get waves of detachment and what is frightening is that I think what if I can't get out of it and do end up losing my mind? Oh I do sympathize with all of you and any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks for listening. Take Care and Good Luck to all of us!

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:15 pm

Nygirl,

Definitely do NOT go to the DP/DR forums. When my anxiety first started 4 years ago, I ended up at a website called dpselfhelp.com and I would visit that website every day for about 3 months and honestly, I thought I was going to live with DP/DR for the rest of my life. They do not emphasize DP/DR as being a symptom of an anxiety disorder, instead I felt like I was going to deal with it for the rest of my life and it was this ailment I had no control over. The people there accept DP/DR as this thing they will have forever and that's the difference between you and them. You know it's anxiety and attitude is so important in this. I know how you feel, I really do, because for the first few months I dealt with DP/DR, I was so terrified of having it forever and when I'd read someone saying "I've had this for 25 years, I hate my life, blah blah blah." I honestly was so upset I cried for weeks. I thought I had permanent brain damage. The thing is, those people aren't you and that's something I realized over time very slowly. I realized that everyone is different and everyone has a different story. Those people have accepted this as something they will always deal with, they don't even see a way out, and even if they think maybe there is, they probably don't want to put the effort into trying. And who knows, maybe they have things in their life that they deal with or have dealt with (an abusive relationship, a traumatic past, a gambling or drinking problem) that they haven't dealt with or sought help for. You just don't know. The only thing you know is you. You know your story, you know your issues, and you can help you. I promise you, this isn't a life sentence, it's your brain telling you something isn't right. I had the worst possible DR/DP when I was in a verbally abusive relationship that I was afraid to leave. You need to listen to what it is telling you and take the steps towards bettering yourself. Make positive changes. The only good thing I ever got out of a DP/DR forum was one woman who I will never forget. She said, "One way to get better, is to better yourself." Make those changes that deep down you know you need to make, deal with the things that still bring you pain.

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Post by Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:44 pm

My therapist is a genius with this disorder. I absolutely LOVE that she gets it and has knowledge on how to alleviate it.

Again, it can come from many, many different roots. It can be a way your brain deals with stress and anxiety, it can be part of other issues like PTSD, it can come from smoking too much pot, fatigue, or too many carbs etc.

DP/DR are really two sides of the same coin. You're trapped in your head and overly conscience of your existence. You live in your head in almost a dream state that your brain feels to stay in. It is a habit. A habit. Fighting it is similar to fighting OCD. It's OCD for the brain (pure "o"). You think about thinking and overanalyze your every thought making you seem outside yourself. It's a habit of coping.

It has been proven that there are chemical issues with this disorder. It's very painful I know. Mine waxes and wains and I'm keeping a journal to understand possible triggers.

Zoloft and xanax has helped me greatly. I don't suffer with anxiety and depression any more, especially since the program, but this disorder is probably the foundation to my discomfort.

It will not hurt you. You will not loose touch with reality and it will not get worse. It's just a pain in the ass.

15 years ago we did not have the support with anxiety we know have and medicine is catching up with DR/DP sufferers. I float with it when it happens and ignore it. I refocus my attention on something else and throw myself into conversation or use my brain for a thought filled task. Many of the StressCenter.com tools are very helpful also.

I think the StressCenter.com should have a space for DP/DR members, much like they do for OCD. Other sites are really scary and do not have the compassion and spirit this site has.People need to know they are not alone, and many have recovered. I have had years of no symptoms.

People need hope and love not horror stories. I recommend the <A HREF="http://www.dpmanual.com" TARGET=_blank>www.dpmanual.com</A> for everyone :)

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