Who made God?

R.T.E. · Post by **R.T.E.** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:43 pm

I for one found Jim's post to be very helpful at a time when I needed it.

I find it very humerous that anyone would complain about such a posting given the title. If you know that it could be a potential OCD trigger for you, or you know you would be easily offended by some of the postings, why bother opening it and why bother responding? Unless you are looking for an argument? Without even opening it, you know there is going to be someone who shares similar views as Jim, with so many Christians on the forums.

As far as it being an OCD trigger and needing removal based on that. We can not predict what may or may not trigger someones OCD. If I for example read a posting on here about germs and cleaning your house, and it triggered an OCD attack, would it then be grounds for removal? No. If that was the case, we could pick apart every post on here and say it triggered my OCD.

Also, we are taught not to practice avoidance, but rather we need to learn to deal with our anxiety/OCD.

We live in a country that has freedom of speech and there are going to be things said out in the "real world" that maybe similar to what Jim has posted. Can't censor or change others, can only learn to deal with your OCD/anxiety and the way you react.

I am done with this topic, but want to say thanks to Jim for posting this, and thanks to StressCenter.com for allowing it. The spirituality section is always helpful. It is a shame people who disagree can't just move on to another topic.

Originally posted by Craw:
Jim, Jim, Jim ... where to begin?

This topic could certainly relieve anxiety to one who may have had an issue about it.
Agreed. It could. Except nobody asked so how would we know anyone had an issue with it? You didn't post this with the intention of relieving anxiety. Unless you've gone back and changed it, you never mentioned anxiety or depression in your opening post. Your intentions were to witness, save souls, and arm people with your truth. You said that, not me.

Bringing up this subject [unnecessarily] puts ideas in the heads of people with OCD, giving them something new to worry about that they wouldn't have thought to worry about before on their own. And I'm not saying it could do that, it did. So to that I take offense.

Since a topic like this was already closed a while back, let's see if an Admin pops in. There's a reason it was taken down before and the same reason may still apply. If the StressCenter.com thinks it's fine to leave it then I'll back away and tell the person who's OCD was triggered to pull up their boot straps and get over it.

We have a right to our opinions, as you do.

Then why tell me to shut up at the end of your post? Yes, I'm seeing "why respond at all" as "shut up and go away".

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:57 pm

Jim you did an excellent job of this fabulous post. I'm sorry some challenges came about. But I am very touched and for those who needed some clarification on this topic you did a great job in doing so.

Beat Anxiety I love how you found the balance and positive with it. I always enjoy reading your postings.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:48 am

Thanks to all for there positive responses, and thanks for all the negative ones too. It always amazes me how people who don't agree with someone else respond. Craw, you are something else. I'll let your own postings speak for themselves. Your very own words express your true colors. DMX, thanks for your opinion, I appreciate it. Who am I to worry about what others believe? Um, I'm a Christain. Thanks Jennifer. Thank you too Vegas Cutie. Thanks Believer08. Challenges always come with Christianity, I'm used to it. No biggie for me. And I have to agree with you, BeatAnxiety07 does have good posts. Even though we don't agree, I respect his opinion. He's obviously very intelligent. Malikye, not sure who you are, but all I can say to you, is grow up. Jimbo, Jimbo, Jimbo, thanks be to God, prayer, and the program that it doesn't bother me anymore. You know, most of these people on this forum have the program, or so it would seem. Lucinda Bassett herself is a Christian. I often wonder what others here would do if she posted something about God. Well maybe they would have the same reaction, who knows? But I'm thankful the program I purchased, that helped me in life tremendously, came from a Godly woman. Have a nice day everyone...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:50 am

Now I'm confused.

Is this a website where people with little to no skills in combating anxiety and depression go to learn such things OR is it a playground for the people who have already mastered these skills and would rather debate topics that are of more interest to them?

Craw, you are something else. I'll let your own postings speak for themselves. Your very own words express your true colors.

Confused again.

What was it I said that deserved that? You and I are in disagreement here but that doesn't automatically mean I said something wrong/bad. Please quote what you are having a problem with.

I never cared what religion Lucinda was. A person's faith is not the deciding factor for me. Not sure she'd appreciate you using her religion in a disagreement.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:26 am

Craw, your only goal here is to get this posting stopped. I've heard this is not the first time you've done such things. I've also heard you got others banned here, because you didn't like what they had to say. I have absolutely no clue why you even read posts that offend you. Unless, of course, deep down you know I'm right about God. I'm not ashamed of the God I believe in. You, whether you get this post stopped or not, or even get me banned, or anyone else won't stop me from talking about God. Good luck with that. I don't dislike you, I don't even know you, but seems to me you're a God basher. You're not happy when someone talks about God. I hope, and pray the program starts working a little better for you. Have a nice day...Jim

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:54 am

Another thing. I didn't come on this forum to argue with others. I came here and stated what I believe to be the truth. This forum is about spirituality, isn't it? Do people that disagree with others on these posts, whether or not they're anxiety and depression based or not, always respond with such discontent? Or is it just the ones about God? Hmm, I wonder....until next time. Have a great day everyone.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:57 am

Jim we just need to continue to pray and bless those that entertain confusion and we thank God that he has delivered us from that and has blessed us with this program as enforcement tools. Know that you have done a wonderful thing with this post and know that you have alot of support.....there are even many admin that are supporting as well. The postings themselves show who is creating anxiety....instead of processing it. Continued to be lifted and inspired to share the WORD..

Blessings

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:07 am

Thanks for your post JIM. It is very a valuable tool for us. Since this thread may be demolished...I would like to put in my two cents worth.

First....Vegascuties quote: I find it very humerous that anyone would complain about such a posting given the title. If you know that it could be a potential OCD trigger for you, or you know you would be easily offended by some of the postings, why bother opening it and why bother responding? Unless you are looking for an argument?

I couldnt' have said it any better myself!

Two....Jim's quote: Whether you get this post stopped or not, or even get me banned, or anyone else won't stop me from talking about God.

Luke 19:40 (Jesus said) I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out." All the Biblical Archaeology proves that.

Third...Here is a nice addition to your post JIM (HUGS)

Does God Exist - Things to Consider
Once you're ready to ask the question, "does God exist?" here are a few observations to consider as you begin your search for an objective answer:

Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.

Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.

Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?

The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?

Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?

People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more? If God does exist, has He revealed Himself? And if He has revealed Himself, surely He exists.

Keep searching and asking and study...TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

And my personal opinion....just look around...you can see proof there is a Divine Creator! Total common sense and logical!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:34 am

Believer08, what kind and encouraging words! Thank you so much. Many prayers have been answered in my life, including the support I receive here. Thank you too Conner, for your support. Nice to have fellow Christians in here with an understanding for the need of the Lord in our lives. Not that our lives are perfect, or flawless, but we find the ultimate comfort in our God. Indeed, it is my belief that satan attacks us Christians even more. Thank you so, so much Jesus, for dying for us, so we can have eternal life. I bought my loving, Christian wife a magnet, she has on the fridge, that says: When HE was on the cross, YOU were on his mind. I find so much comfort in these words. I hope all who read this will as well. Need to go hang up some shades in my new sons room, will see ya's later. God bless, and have a nice day eevryone.

thethirdperson · Post by **thethirdperson** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:37 am

Jim, I've been nothing but polite to you. Would it be so hard to return the favor?

Whoever told you I didn't believe in God was wrong. Since I believe in only one God and you believe in only one God, it would stand to reason that we both believe in the very same one. Calling me a "God basher" is name-calling. Read the forum rules.

I don't know how I could get anyone banned on here.

I don't have the button. Where are you getting this stuff? It all sounds very childish.

Do people that disagree with others on these posts, whether or not they're anxiety and depression based or not, always respond with such discontent?

I don't know so I'll turn the question back to you. Why so discontent because we disagree? I think you crossed the line of the forum rules. You don't. That COULD have been the end of discussion on our part. Leave the rest to the Admin. instead of resorting to the childish, unfounded accusations and name-calling.