Hi,
I am finishing the 4th session and I am trying very hard not to think negatively but what if this program doesn't work, then I guess I stay on my tranquilizers forever? This must be a bad day because there were days while on this program I felt pretty good and thought I was getting some kind of handle on my inner nervousness (anxiety). I definitely have to work on patience!
How many here have taken/purchased this course..and
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Guest
I agree with Kelly, you get out of it what you put into it. I am on wk 2 and already feel like it's helped. I don't follow it to a tee, it's taken me 3 wks to do 2 wks work but the things I hear in the tape replay in my mind to help keep me sane. Good luck, remember, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.
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I am going through the program for a second time. I did it the first time throught buying it from ebay. I didn't get all the materials or the support you get when you buy it from the Center. I did however, get the relaxation tape and learned about panic attacks. That was worth every penny!
This is a life skills course. It may not work if you don't get to the route of your problems. I am currently on Lexapro and Reading Dr. Laura's Book called "Bad Childhood, Good Life." This is helping me to address the problems that have given me the anxiety.
This program is teaching me how to deal with the anxiety. Together I think I can beat this. I did go to see a counselor and was told counseling would be a long drawn out process that would be difficult and probably not worth it since I have children and a husband to take care of. So that's out for me.
I hope you find what you need in whatever shape it comes in. One problem with people with anxiety, is they find it hard to make decisions. That's a catch 22 isn't it?
This is a life skills course. It may not work if you don't get to the route of your problems. I am currently on Lexapro and Reading Dr. Laura's Book called "Bad Childhood, Good Life." This is helping me to address the problems that have given me the anxiety.
This program is teaching me how to deal with the anxiety. Together I think I can beat this. I did go to see a counselor and was told counseling would be a long drawn out process that would be difficult and probably not worth it since I have children and a husband to take care of. So that's out for me.
I hope you find what you need in whatever shape it comes in. One problem with people with anxiety, is they find it hard to make decisions. That's a catch 22 isn't it?
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Guest
Hi Fruit Jacket,
Please PM and chat if you ever feel like it, perhaps you need to vent to people who understand?! I know this tool alone has helped me 150%!!!! I have met incredible people and learned tons!
When I started this whole journey I didnt think that there was a cure, I thought this is who I was, suicidal and all. I am only half into recovery, if that, and I can say this program is absolutely incredible. I was SOOO skeptical when I started I didnt even listen to all the sessions and packed up to send it back.. one women who was 20 years my senior met me on here and I had a long chat and correspondence with her and through it all she inspired me to change my ways.. I am sticking with it and seeing results, slow but again IT IS WHAT YOU PUT IN! thats it in a nut shell. Put tons in, get tons out. The money was a huge issue for me and they were wonderful, accomodating and understanding, I will own it by the end of the year at 35$ per month canadian.. its a bargain! I dont do therapy well.. I have social issues and really dont need to examine my past, its hurtful and I already spend 24/7 dwelling on things.. I needed tools to move forward and handle stress better- which this does..I even kicked my expensive meds for over two months but resumed b.c. I slacked off the program (not that they'll completely take you off you meds but for me thats what I needed..)..
Take a risk, you are worth it and what if this was the answer for YOU? what if it completely helped? what if you recovered after your long struggle? what if it all works out great? what if you get a new lease on life? dont forget where you are is negative and skeptical.. worrisome.. take that risk and live a little! try whatifing good! (thats only one of a hundred things you'll learn in the program) I relized I was the one causing all of my pain nad stress and over time I can correct it! I felt like an abusive person left my life! ITS ME! funny but not..
I struggle everyday still but see the light which I never thought was there.. I know I need to work harder on it and I will get better again (I was a different person for a couple months, unrecognizable and felt amazing, better than ever!)
Please keep in touch and again, PM if you feel like it!
Best wishes!
Please PM and chat if you ever feel like it, perhaps you need to vent to people who understand?! I know this tool alone has helped me 150%!!!! I have met incredible people and learned tons!
When I started this whole journey I didnt think that there was a cure, I thought this is who I was, suicidal and all. I am only half into recovery, if that, and I can say this program is absolutely incredible. I was SOOO skeptical when I started I didnt even listen to all the sessions and packed up to send it back.. one women who was 20 years my senior met me on here and I had a long chat and correspondence with her and through it all she inspired me to change my ways.. I am sticking with it and seeing results, slow but again IT IS WHAT YOU PUT IN! thats it in a nut shell. Put tons in, get tons out. The money was a huge issue for me and they were wonderful, accomodating and understanding, I will own it by the end of the year at 35$ per month canadian.. its a bargain! I dont do therapy well.. I have social issues and really dont need to examine my past, its hurtful and I already spend 24/7 dwelling on things.. I needed tools to move forward and handle stress better- which this does..I even kicked my expensive meds for over two months but resumed b.c. I slacked off the program (not that they'll completely take you off you meds but for me thats what I needed..)..
Take a risk, you are worth it and what if this was the answer for YOU? what if it completely helped? what if you recovered after your long struggle? what if it all works out great? what if you get a new lease on life? dont forget where you are is negative and skeptical.. worrisome.. take that risk and live a little! try whatifing good! (thats only one of a hundred things you'll learn in the program) I relized I was the one causing all of my pain nad stress and over time I can correct it! I felt like an abusive person left my life! ITS ME! funny but not..
I struggle everyday still but see the light which I never thought was there.. I know I need to work harder on it and I will get better again (I was a different person for a couple months, unrecognizable and felt amazing, better than ever!)
Please keep in touch and again, PM if you feel like it!
Best wishes!
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sandy krahn
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Hi Fruit! I just read your message and what caught my eye was when you said you only slept a few hours. That was my problem. For the past 10 years I've had problems with insomnia. Doctors have just given me one pill after the other..ambien, lunesta, etc. I even tried SleepMD. But last night I finally opened the package I received nearly a month ago, from StressCenter (Lucinda's program) and I decided out of desperation to listen to the first few dvd's. (I haven't slept since November...when my husband gets up for work at 5:30 AM, I'm still wide awake. I would sometimes sleep a couple of hours after he left for work, but never more than 3 or 4 hours...it's been very frustrating.) Well, last night, I listened to the introduction dvd, then the cd on relaxation. After listening to the relaxation cd, I went straight to bed and slept for nearly 8 hours!!! YIPPEE!!! I'm so anxious to try it again tonight! I know when I purchased the program, they gave me a 30 day trial for only $14.95. So, if you get the same deal, you should know after the first 30 days if it's working for you or not. They said, you can return it for no additional charge. Maybe it would be worth it for you? I pray it works! God Bless you on your decision, Fruit!
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I haven't gotten too far into it, either. I've been SO busy in the last couple years (this is the cause of most of my anxiety) that I just keep forgetting to do all that is required of me. I DO, however, now look forward to doing the relaxation CD, even if not as frequently as I should. I also find that I am at least THINKING of all the stuff that is being taught. I recognize negative thinking, and try to catch it before it starts. I don't drink coffee at all, but do have a problem with too much chocolate. Since starting this course, its made me aware of my consumption, and I've made the decision to stop eating chocolate later in the day. I am working on eliminating things, but I find that if I make huge commitments, I always break them. I am trying to not pressure myself more than I know I will do. So... is it worth it? Probably, but you really do have to commit to it. I'm not entirely there yet.
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GREAT TOPIC 
ALEXSEI521: I am so happy you're doing what you can do to recover. I'd like to comment on 1 thing in particular that you said. You stated, <span class="ev_code_RED">"I did go to see a counselor and was told counseling would be a long drawn out process that would be difficult and probably not worth it since I have children and a husband to take care of. So that's out for me."</span>I don't know any counselor/therapist that would ever dare say something like that. Whoever told you that, if it was a counselor, should not be a counselor. Whoever told you that is MEDICALLY irresponsible & dead wrong -BIG TIME. How is RECOVERY not worth it? Sure, your married & a mom(God bless by the way) - is your health & totally being & existence contingent only on them? Yes you have responsibilite - however what about you? What about you taking care of you & what you need? I'm sure you're a great wife & mama - however, if you don't take care of yourself & do WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR YOU TO "RECOVER" FIRST, how can you be a good wife & mama? You say you were told "not worth it cause I have a hubby & children to take care of", that is wrong: while we all have responsibilites in life that require a very delicate balance - RECOVERY NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY & IF YOU HAVE ISSUES OR PAST EVENTS THAT REQUIRE THE HELP OF A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL(therapist or counselor) - then that is what you need to do. Your health & mental/emotional well being should NOT be contingent on what your children & hubby need FIRST & ALWAYS. You need to take care of you too. Finally, <span class="ev_code_RED">there are issues that reach beyond the scope of this program - that which require the asst of a medical profess - such as a counselor or therapist. Let's say for example, you had SUCH ISSUES - you could read all the books in the world til the cows come home - that will not get you resolution in addressing these things. </span>Pls know, by no means am I implying books aren't great - they are: YOU ARE DOING GREAT THINGS - however, there are some events & issues that have emotional ramifications on us(events fr past - like childhood, etc) that require help beyond BOOKS & THIS PROGRAM. I needed to go to therapy for 20 intensive mths b/4 I was even ready for the program: all based on trauma I had experienced in childhood. JUST AS YOU NOTED & what I later learned - had I not addressed these events 1st - they would regurgitate themselves. I needed to separate the former victim I was THEN vs the woman I am NOW - so I could distinguish, separate, acknowledge, address, deal, heal & let go - THEN I COULD CHANGE MYSELF. Yes, I am married as well(10 yrs) - I haven't been blessed w/ children as of yet - UP TO GOD - LOL, I SAY MEN/HUSBANDS ARE 1/2 CHILD = TRAINING FOR WIVES TO BECOME MAMA'S Lol hahahahha. <span class="ev_code_RED">It was THERAPY + JOURNALING + RESEARCH: reading 16 books + LUCINDA'S PROGRAM - that allowed me to recover. Therapy & program(50% equally) are the reasons I am recovered - no more or less.</span>Of course it would be times consuming & hard. Respectfully, I don't know how old you are, but if you experienced for EXAMPLE ONLY several yrs of hurts/pains/sad-bad events in the past & lets say now you're 30(just a guess sweetie) - how on God's green earth would you expect to address THESE CUMULATIVE yrs of events & all respective surpressed emotions - overnight? It is hard, long, & yes very very painful - IS IT MORE PAINFUL THAN HOLD ON TO THESE THINGS & NOT ADDRESSING THEM ACCORDINGLY? I say no.
LUCINDA'S PROGRAM:
This program is a life saver, worth every penney & the absolute best investment you could make in yourself. You want to empower yourself? Purchase this program. This program SPELLS IT OUT so to speak. This program told me everything I didn't want to hear but all I DESPERATELY NEEDED TO HEAR. I obtained knowledge about the personalities traits condusive to anxiety disorder - MY PERSONALITY: she was so dead on, you'd swear Lucinda was my neighbor - honest folks: she explains the WHY'S. This is KEY - so you learn YOU ARE CREATING IT & YOU HAVE CONTROL/POWER OVER IT - it can't hurt you. You learn, IT IS A SERIES OF NEGATIVE LEARNED BEHAVIORS - if they are learned - they can be UNLEARNED as Carolyn says in the program. Then, as you are obtaining all this wealth of knowledge - you are also simultaneously LEARNING SKILLS to help you through heightened anxiety or a panic attack: THOSE SKILLS ARE PRICELESS. Combine both, you initiate CHANGE W/IN YOURSELF - It is all those things that lead to recovery.
Recovery isn't easy - it is hard fought - lots of work & just when you think you have done enough, it requires more. It is slow, methodical. I'm amazed - that folks(I was 1 of them prior to recovery) assume they should be able to rid themselves of yrs & yrs & yrs of neg learned behaviors in LIKE YESTERDAY - how? Is it painful? Is it hard? Is it frustrating? Yes, all those things & more. NOT MORE THAN HAVING DONE NOTHING @ ALL - Anxiety disorder @ its worst for me was HELL ON EARTH - inhibiting, paralizing, life restricting fear. Any thing I have done was worth NOT BEING IN THAT PLACE ANY MORE - I got there w/ the help of this program.
LENORE
ALEXSEI521: I am so happy you're doing what you can do to recover. I'd like to comment on 1 thing in particular that you said. You stated, <span class="ev_code_RED">"I did go to see a counselor and was told counseling would be a long drawn out process that would be difficult and probably not worth it since I have children and a husband to take care of. So that's out for me."</span>I don't know any counselor/therapist that would ever dare say something like that. Whoever told you that, if it was a counselor, should not be a counselor. Whoever told you that is MEDICALLY irresponsible & dead wrong -BIG TIME. How is RECOVERY not worth it? Sure, your married & a mom(God bless by the way) - is your health & totally being & existence contingent only on them? Yes you have responsibilite - however what about you? What about you taking care of you & what you need? I'm sure you're a great wife & mama - however, if you don't take care of yourself & do WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR YOU TO "RECOVER" FIRST, how can you be a good wife & mama? You say you were told "not worth it cause I have a hubby & children to take care of", that is wrong: while we all have responsibilites in life that require a very delicate balance - RECOVERY NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY & IF YOU HAVE ISSUES OR PAST EVENTS THAT REQUIRE THE HELP OF A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL(therapist or counselor) - then that is what you need to do. Your health & mental/emotional well being should NOT be contingent on what your children & hubby need FIRST & ALWAYS. You need to take care of you too. Finally, <span class="ev_code_RED">there are issues that reach beyond the scope of this program - that which require the asst of a medical profess - such as a counselor or therapist. Let's say for example, you had SUCH ISSUES - you could read all the books in the world til the cows come home - that will not get you resolution in addressing these things. </span>Pls know, by no means am I implying books aren't great - they are: YOU ARE DOING GREAT THINGS - however, there are some events & issues that have emotional ramifications on us(events fr past - like childhood, etc) that require help beyond BOOKS & THIS PROGRAM. I needed to go to therapy for 20 intensive mths b/4 I was even ready for the program: all based on trauma I had experienced in childhood. JUST AS YOU NOTED & what I later learned - had I not addressed these events 1st - they would regurgitate themselves. I needed to separate the former victim I was THEN vs the woman I am NOW - so I could distinguish, separate, acknowledge, address, deal, heal & let go - THEN I COULD CHANGE MYSELF. Yes, I am married as well(10 yrs) - I haven't been blessed w/ children as of yet - UP TO GOD - LOL, I SAY MEN/HUSBANDS ARE 1/2 CHILD = TRAINING FOR WIVES TO BECOME MAMA'S Lol hahahahha. <span class="ev_code_RED">It was THERAPY + JOURNALING + RESEARCH: reading 16 books + LUCINDA'S PROGRAM - that allowed me to recover. Therapy & program(50% equally) are the reasons I am recovered - no more or less.</span>Of course it would be times consuming & hard. Respectfully, I don't know how old you are, but if you experienced for EXAMPLE ONLY several yrs of hurts/pains/sad-bad events in the past & lets say now you're 30(just a guess sweetie) - how on God's green earth would you expect to address THESE CUMULATIVE yrs of events & all respective surpressed emotions - overnight? It is hard, long, & yes very very painful - IS IT MORE PAINFUL THAN HOLD ON TO THESE THINGS & NOT ADDRESSING THEM ACCORDINGLY? I say no.
LUCINDA'S PROGRAM:
This program is a life saver, worth every penney & the absolute best investment you could make in yourself. You want to empower yourself? Purchase this program. This program SPELLS IT OUT so to speak. This program told me everything I didn't want to hear but all I DESPERATELY NEEDED TO HEAR. I obtained knowledge about the personalities traits condusive to anxiety disorder - MY PERSONALITY: she was so dead on, you'd swear Lucinda was my neighbor - honest folks: she explains the WHY'S. This is KEY - so you learn YOU ARE CREATING IT & YOU HAVE CONTROL/POWER OVER IT - it can't hurt you. You learn, IT IS A SERIES OF NEGATIVE LEARNED BEHAVIORS - if they are learned - they can be UNLEARNED as Carolyn says in the program. Then, as you are obtaining all this wealth of knowledge - you are also simultaneously LEARNING SKILLS to help you through heightened anxiety or a panic attack: THOSE SKILLS ARE PRICELESS. Combine both, you initiate CHANGE W/IN YOURSELF - It is all those things that lead to recovery.
Recovery isn't easy - it is hard fought - lots of work & just when you think you have done enough, it requires more. It is slow, methodical. I'm amazed - that folks(I was 1 of them prior to recovery) assume they should be able to rid themselves of yrs & yrs & yrs of neg learned behaviors in LIKE YESTERDAY - how? Is it painful? Is it hard? Is it frustrating? Yes, all those things & more. NOT MORE THAN HAVING DONE NOTHING @ ALL - Anxiety disorder @ its worst for me was HELL ON EARTH - inhibiting, paralizing, life restricting fear. Any thing I have done was worth NOT BEING IN THAT PLACE ANY MORE - I got there w/ the help of this program.
LENORE