Drinking and Anxiety

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:40 am

Eddie: I completely appreciate your opinion as it has some great merits however I wanted to say your delivery wasnt great..I wanted to ask you in one place you said when you attended the OCD clinic they said you need to believe you did it to get past it yet later on in your post you state that you must believe the next day you didnt do anything, so what thinking..then you say you cant ask people about it to reassure yourself, but in the latter you say you can..? not to sound confusing, I am curious as to the relationship between it all, but my perception was contradicting. I would enjoy reading your thoughts!

Free: dont let the above about Eddie bother you, he is just giving his opinion, I know it hits home but dont let it. It sounds like he really cares and thats why he responded.. I could see his 'frustration' of wanting to help you..

I appreciate your kind words in my regard! I try and respond as best I can and its nice to hear what you say may help someone

what you (and I) are going through is rediculously tough. It isnt as easy as quitting and facing a fear, it just isnt. I believe for me especially this has been progressional. I slowly work on me and it seems my old habits dont fit anymore.. (such as drinking or smoking on my lunch break.. I know sounds bad but we're being honest here) I just dont feel like it b.c. I feel good.. again its a level thing. The MOST IMPORTANT thing is to appreciate and have compassion for yourself.. work on you dont fuel the vicious cycle by beating yourself up, just live as best you can, eat well, exercise and refuse to allow your thoughts to control you. Who really cares if I said something wrong.. who really cares if I slept with someone I shouldnt.. I would like to feel that if I died tomorrow I would be happy with my today. Catch me?

This will happen for you, it will evolve, you must be the one to be aware of it, reach out for help, make that step and admit it in person to people.. when you open your heart and mind to guidance you will find it, I promise, not just god, but guidance in you and in your community. This is (I would say) one of the hardest things is self medicating. Self medicating and of course the cycle that comes with it.. Please keep in touch with me and feel free to PM anytime. I admit it I do self medicate and I can identify that feeling of'I want to self medicate the crap out of myself' feeling.. normally under stress, when my ocd is bad and of course when I am upset in general, but I can promise since working this program and having that undying hope and faith in change, I am 100% better then I was. The medicating disipates, seriously the happier you are and the more you break that cycle the more these issues leave us, naturally.

Again, good luck! best wishes and take care..

jillzmind · Post by **jillzmind** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:43 am

free at last,
First of all if you are drinking and have blackouts , with or without ocd,, you need to join AA.
Drinking solves NO problems at all.. And if your at a funeral or whatever and people drink, doesnt mean you have to.
I agree with eddie on alot of what he says, and thats not being mean either. People who try to help others do it by giving them advice from experience, then its YOUR choice to take the advice or not. If your no longer drinking, and have severe ocd,, try to find a OCD therapist.. Nelly:)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:43 am

Thank you ineed cause it hurts I do need help Its hard to talk to people. Im so scared and I am a nice gal eddie and I am sure ou are too. A nice guy I mean that is trying to help but be productive please!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:47 am

Well Mello you know me I use to be fungirl and you know how hard it is for me to come on hear and say im sad and confussed and that is why I come to this forum to talk not to be put down again and again by one person puts me back ten steps

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:50 am

I don't like to debate on forums i think its a waste of time nothing ever gets resolved. But I don't understand how I am being rude. She was given great advice the last time and i am sure she took none of it. If she did then she did something wrong. Trust me I know about OCD. I have it. I go to the OCDLA center of UCLA. I have been going for close to half a year. I have seen people recover from this in this time frame well with certain obsessions. SHE cant reasure herself thats what is causing the cycle. When a person who is afraid of hitting somone on the road and continously drives in circles going back and forth to see if they hit someone is adding fuel to the obsession and their for giving the thought value and importance instead of just saying oh its my OCD or just a thought. She wants a way out I have knowledge i am giving for free. i don't see that as being rude. I may have come off strong and appologize if i offended you. i just hate to see poeple suffering when they have amazing knowledge infront of them and don't take advantage.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:25 am

Originally posted by Eddiediaz:
I don't like to debate on forums i think its a waste of time nothing ever gets resolved. But I don't understand how I am being rude. She was given great advice the last time and i am sure she took none of it. If she did then she did something wrong. Trust me I know about OCD. I have it. I go to the OCDLA center of UCLA. I have been going for close to half a year. I have seen people recover from this in this time frame well with certain obsessions. SHE cant reasure herself thats what is causing the cycle. When a person who is afraid of hitting somone on the road and continously drives in circles going back and forth to see if they hit someone is adding fuel to the obsession and their for giving the thought value and importance instead of just saying oh its my OCD or just a thought. She wants a way out I have knowledge i am giving for free. i don't see that as being rude. I may have come off strong and appologize if i offended you. i just hate to see poeple suffering when they have amazing knowledge infront of them and don't take advantage.

Hi eddie, I agree so much with what you are saying & I have been there too, frustrated when people cant help themselves (I bought the program for my bro-in-law and he basically through it out and told me im an idiot for trying something so stupid yet his ocd is so bad his wife is considering leaving, he even goes through the garbage and questions her!- thats frustrating) but I learned we can dish it out, its up to the other person to want it and to want to change. Some people like being the way they are believe it or not, subconsciously they like the victim place. It is what it is, to each his own! dont waste energy debating like you said.. forums can be a bit of a circle. I do see some insecurity in your posts (could be my perception also!)but, I hope you are proud of yourself for all the hard work youve done and when the time is right she'll get her own to! props for being so resourceful! talk about determination!

Thanks for reaching out to everyone, I know I learned a lot from these posts!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:37 am

I also agree with Eddie. You cannot solve a problem until you admit that you have one. If you are drinking and blacking out or even drinking and it's causing problems for you OR people around you, you have a problem and need AA. We are on a anxiety and depression site, so there are many people on medication. If those people that are drinking are also taking medication, they are combining drugs and alcohol which can be DEADLY. Alcohol stays in your system longer than you think. Your age, weight, sex, and the rate your body "flushes" toxins out of your system determines how fast you get "rid" of the alcohol. So if you think that the alcohol is out of your system when you take your medication, you may be wrong, and you may be mixing drugs and alcohol, which is frightening. Many people die from this. You are not only hurting yourselves, but also people around you that care about you. This is a serious addiction. Therefore, people shouldn't "baby" people that abuse alcohol. Think about what you're doing to yourselves, and get help!

Take care. DeeDee.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:35 pm

See I am sad and seek advice no Eddie I didnt take your wonderful advice last time I am a repetative gal thats why I ask the same questions over and over. I thought I could come in the forum when feeling bad and be honest. Yes Dee I know I have a problem dont try to talk me off a ledge any time soon K. I love life and myself but time to time I strugle like all people do and I found this forum and people who understand so Im sorry If I feel like Im being put down I get on the defence. God the Father knows I try. I hate to drink to escape and I dont take meds they dont work on me been there. Thank you all for your comments!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:03 pm

Sometimes all you need is love and comfort! Advice is not everything, I believe Eddie and D were treatin this poor gal like crud when it takes someone enough courage and dignity to share their own personal emotions with the said two that criticize for no reason!

BookOfPsalms · Post by **BookOfPsalms** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:10 pm

Further more I am shocked to see the way people are treating people. No one needs to go to AA and support all of the after sobers like myself, which I have been there and done that. If it werent for this site I would probably be dead some where and all because people are significant buttheads! Lucinda Basset created this site for a reason and it was to help people like us who have hardships that we eventually get through if we have the compassion and support given by our fellow man! Amen