I feel that God isn't there.

The spiritual response to anxiety and depression
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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:14 am

Mr. Cleveland,

God is most definately there. Have you heard of the story of Job? The Passion of Christ? God does not always come when we want--but he is always on time. There's a sermon that I heard on January 1, 2008 @ Times Square Church in NYC that talks about what you're talking about. It may be available, with an audio player, from their website: tscnyc.org. They have a CD ($3?) and DVD(6$) ministry, too, if you don't have a lot of web access.

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:28 am

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awesome site! check out interview with god 1!

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:43 pm

Mr. Cleveland-- With this Program, I had to make up my mind to stop ALL negativity, including that which I had towards God. It is not uncommon for you to feel like walking away from God. But this really is not the solution...

I first had to believe that inspite of all of my circumstances -- God IS Good-- It may take you a minute, but just pause and think back on the goodness of the Lord in your life. Use the skills from session 3 to send positive empowerment speech to the Lord -"I know that you are a good God. I'm sorry for how I feel but I am very concerned about ____. Please help me. God I know you love me. I love Lord".

Then during the day ask the Lord for what you should meditate upon about his character, (i.e. His compassion) Think on this meditation morning noon and night. I chose to meditate about 20 minute intervals at a time on His characteristic for the day.

Yes God is good, situations and circumstances may not be good for the moment but God will turn it around to make it ALL work in your favor.

My prayers are with you,

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:16 pm

Howdy MrCleveland,

Sorry to hear about your situation. I know how hard it can be to wait. I'm finally getting a little better at it, but it still aint no picnic. From the looks of all the replies you've gotten (all proof that God is indeed 'there' with you) you'd be spending so much time reading them, you wouldn't have time to work! ;)

I've started feeling that I am mentally disabled but I can't even begin to imagine what you must be up against. One thing that I have found out about God since I (finally) turned to Him about 12 years ago is that we can be totally honest and open with Him. I truly believe that He wants us to be open and honest with HIm coz He wants to be our Father! He knows when we are mad at Him, but He still loves us. I know how it feels to think that He is torturing you. I've screamed at Him so much I lost my voice for 3 days one time, but He knew I was being sincere in my 'crying' to Him and He helped me to understand what I needed to know.

Hang in there dude, I'm prayin for you. Later and God bless.

Ballpoint

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:21 pm

Good point, Ballpoint! I'm so glad God loves us just as we are but too much to leave us as we are. Somedays He does seem far away but He's not the one who moved. Well, Lord help us all!

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:39 pm

McClevland,
Why is it we always put the blame on GOD!!
God works in wonderous ways, they we dont see.
God allows us to go through trials , to strengthen our faith, not get rid of it.
But he isnt a genie,, he leads and guides us along the way, and beleive it or not,, He is always there!!
You are down right now, but trust me God is most availble to us when we are at our worst, or at our best... And Time sometimes seems drawn out to us, but He is ALWAYS working for you and your life. The most important thing is, even you dont feel it or realize, God is in your corner. STopping communication with him or blaming him isnt the right step to take either.
He always works for the Good. Even if at the time you dont see it or feel it.. I will keep you in my prayers, that You will allow God to lead you , and not you him!

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:50 pm

dear luvpiggy;
I have been newly inspired by what you wrote. I have struggled with anxiety and depression and drug addiction most of my life. I though at one point that GOD had abandoned me. When I started to get sober and started looking to GOD again for guidance, I realized that it was me who abandoned HIM. I was so scared and depressed about religion for so many years. I know what you mean about some Christians believing the devil roams the earth. I left the strictness of Catholicism to joing the Born Again Christians and that is how I found out how to accept Jesus into my heart, but I also learned more than I needed to know about the devil. I was also told the more you get to know GOD, the more the devil will try to get to you. I took this literally. I was scared out of my wits for years and still am. I know we are not supposed to fear the devil but have reverance for GOD, but the more I slipped the more I was not afraid of the devil. Sound weird, but ther is it. My anxitey working over time? Probably. I had to hit bottom and have the bottom fall out, before I finally went to rehab for only 3 days and then off to AA meetings. I never felt comfortable at those meetings but what I did find was GOD. The right to seek GOD on my terms. Not the way everyone had always said it should be, but my way, and probably what GOD wanted. I feel now my struggle was to find God again.
I was good for a while, and sometimes felt as though he there. Then I have the feeling that I can't reach Him. I get nervous about that and I think what is wrong with me that I can't feel Him? I know he has performed miracles for me, but I lose sight sometimes. That is why what you said about God using us for little things made me feel so much better. I am always thinking how would God want me to be. I am kind to people, and I try to help people and have patience. It does not always work, but I keep trying. I always feel that I am not doing God's work because I am not doing something more, but I do feel good when someone thanks me for being nice to them or being patient with them. I especially get that from the elderly and it does make me feel good, but my wheels turn and turn and I think I am not good enough.
Well I just want to thank you again because you made me see a little better. I think God has definitely been working through you tonight and I thank Him and you.
God Bless! Please pray for me also, because I do need it. I have been sober for 2 1/2 years, but I still have a long way to go to work on myself.
HOPEFULL

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:54 pm

Originally posted by MrCleveland:
I have been unemployed for over a year. I was in school for the most part, but it seemed that when I asked God to get me a job the answer was 'no'. Now I'm out of school and I went to places that help disabled people get jobs, but I have to wait even longer. I hate waiting and God isn't there. I lost faith in him. I stopped praying, I stopped reading the Bible, and I might just drop out of church. God is torturing me.
Dear cleveland,

Sorry I didn't capitolize your name. I'm not real good at this, bare with me.

The most important thing in my life is my relationship with my Heavenly Father. I could not began to tell you all the heartache and obstacles I have had to climb over in my life. I have made one mistake after another and I can only praise His Holy name that he somehow got my attention. He loves us more than we can even comprehend. Sometimes It amazes me at how forgiveing and loves me so matter what. I have days that I think I just can't get through. I always rememgber his amazing love for me and I know that if I just wait upong the Lord the answer will come. just keep your faith and remember God works on His own time not ours. With this faith you will find it will become more excepting, what ever comes yor way. I know it is easier said that done, but remeber you can't do it alone. He is there with ever douht you are feeling. just hold on. Something good is comming right around the corner, and when it dosen't come right when you want it just tell Him it'st o k . Soon you will began to see circustances will change and with each step you take it will become better. He loves you so much and all He want is for you to keep trusting even when to you it seem so impossibe. See, He love to astound us with his answer. He will always be there with you even though you may not feel him right than. Jus hold on to the unchanging hand and you will see. I will be praying for you and I know that when we pray for one another He does hear those praysers. The are like a sweet odor rising up to Him. Can you imagine the sweet smeel he just smelled as I whisper a prayer on your behave. I think this is a miracle. I too need your prayer. We all do. Thats why He tells us to bear ye one anothe's burdens. We are not alone in all these feelings we have attached to us eveyday in this life we are living down here. Always remember He has gone to prepare a place for us and we cannot comprehend what a glorious place that will be.

Put your eyes on Jesus and you will not fail.

All my prayers
gaylejo

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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:20 am

Dear Cornflower and HopefulMe,
I am really glad that God was able to give me something to say that was helpful to both of you:). Today, I am taking a risk, and it helps me to re-read it:). Sometimes, we don't know how we feel or think until we express ourselves:).
HopeFul Me,
One thing I learned through the painfully traumatic experience when I couldn't eat, sleep, or drink, was that I really wasn't physically able to feel except for this burning sensation in my body because of a bad reaction to a medication. At that time, I wanted my life to end, but one thing that stopped me was "knowing" that God was there, and "knowing" that I loved my husband and son. I couldn't feel, and I wasn't physically able to feel His presence. I wasn't trying to move away from Him, and I don't think that you are either. I'm glad God gives us all these different ways to interact with him:). Sometimes, we're just tired, and our feelings can run amuck, but we have His promises that He will never leave us or forsake us, and God doesn't lie. So just because we don't feel Him doesn't mean He's not there, or that we necessarily moved away from Him.
I will definitely pray for you:)! If you and anyone on here would pray for me right now because I am trying to put my beliefs into action right now by taking some risks:), that would be great! Congratulations on your sobriety!!! That's really a great accomplishment! You're doing great!!!
God Bless Everyone

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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:04 am

Mr Cleveland, God is there with you in your times of trouble even when you think he's not. I'm listening to a Gospel song & the guy said "It seems like times, life is unfair, however, because of who he is (Jesus), you can start all over again." Basically, what I want to say to you is that you stopped praying, you stopped reading the Bible but you can start all over again. Let's believe that he is working it all out for all of us. GOD BLESS!!!

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