Well it took almost a year for me to get the practicing and confidence up to finally be able to be in the car with hubby driving anywhere. We went to church together a couple times and for some reason I freaked at church and left early and left him there and he got a ride home. He wasn't mad he just wondered where I had gone? So for about 3 months now I haven't gone to church (4 miles away) and he's gone alone. I am sick of everyone wondering if I am okay. So I thought last night"hey lets practice for a bit" I hoped for a mile or 2. Got about 4 blocks and freaked out and he started getting mad and so I came back home. I am so angry at myself..Grrrr!! Not again!! Anyway today I am remembering that he said he had 2 people lined up to take him to and from church so I can have the car to myself. So I am going to try that tomorrow and not miss anymore..Then once I am there we can practice coming home together? I am so sick of this and missing our time together. I envy those of you who can ride with others in the car. I seem to not be able to do that successfully. I prefer alone. I have a Horrible time relaxing in the car with distractions so I am also going to have to work on some more intense Immediate,fast acting super duper chill techniques!? ANYONE know of any beside taking a pill? I thought about slapping myself out of it. But that would hurt too much and I am a wimp hahaha. Anyway back to working the program and trying to get my life back
Jill~
I've been missing church for months..again
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Paisleegreen
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Hi Jill~~ I think so far you are doing your best to get out there. Your husband is understanding and that is great! Just take "baby steps" that's what my Dr told me. But mine was taking a trip out of state by myself. Taking a winding road sort of was not a good idea at the time. But the highway with minimal curves was a good start, and he told me I could always turn around and come back home or find a hotel to spend the night.
It worked fine, although did have a terrible neck ache after the intensive stress I felt before I took off on the trip and while I was driving. I was much better after I had spent a week w/ my sister for the drive home.
My next stressor today is a family reunion in town. I'm really tired right now, and see that I have a few more hours until I need to be dressed and ready to go be around in-laws, etc.
I also need to prepare a clean bed for my father in law to sleep in. And just the thought of stripping the guest bed and washing and remaking the bed, is wearing me out. I'm just not ready to be around all these family members this time around. I'm bucking up for my husband, adult children and grandchildren so they will have some fun. But I'm really tired and just want to rest in my own house.
But I'll take my own advice and know that if needs be I can just go home early from the party. I wasn't always this way, just since my first panic attack last May has changed things for me.
It worked fine, although did have a terrible neck ache after the intensive stress I felt before I took off on the trip and while I was driving. I was much better after I had spent a week w/ my sister for the drive home.
My next stressor today is a family reunion in town. I'm really tired right now, and see that I have a few more hours until I need to be dressed and ready to go be around in-laws, etc.
I also need to prepare a clean bed for my father in law to sleep in. And just the thought of stripping the guest bed and washing and remaking the bed, is wearing me out. I'm just not ready to be around all these family members this time around. I'm bucking up for my husband, adult children and grandchildren so they will have some fun. But I'm really tired and just want to rest in my own house.
But I'll take my own advice and know that if needs be I can just go home early from the party. I wasn't always this way, just since my first panic attack last May has changed things for me.
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manofmusic
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Jill,
I got the results of my blood work last week. I went on line before that to do a bit of research on panic attacks and anxiety. I learned that these attacks will make you deficient in certain vitamins that you really need. One of them was vitamin B. Before I went to the clinic to give the blood for the blood work, I kept this in mind. Before I gave the blood, I had one attack after another. I was able to control them, but they came on anyway. When I went to the dr last week for the results, he told me that everything looked good, except for my vitamin B12 levels. He said that was really low and I needed a B12 suppliment (1000mg a day). I won't notice a difference yet, but he said that in a week or 2 I should begin to notice a difference. I also noticed that when I got the B12 suppliment, there was a bottle beside it called Vitamin B Stress Tabs. I guess that vitamin B is the thing to take for stress !
Also, make sure to get in 8 - 10 glasses of water a day. I find that if I don't drink the water, the stress levels rise.
If you attempt to go to church and you freak out on the way and you have to turn around, it's no big deal. God will understand !
Life gives us enough stress. Don't give yourself stress.
I got the results of my blood work last week. I went on line before that to do a bit of research on panic attacks and anxiety. I learned that these attacks will make you deficient in certain vitamins that you really need. One of them was vitamin B. Before I went to the clinic to give the blood for the blood work, I kept this in mind. Before I gave the blood, I had one attack after another. I was able to control them, but they came on anyway. When I went to the dr last week for the results, he told me that everything looked good, except for my vitamin B12 levels. He said that was really low and I needed a B12 suppliment (1000mg a day). I won't notice a difference yet, but he said that in a week or 2 I should begin to notice a difference. I also noticed that when I got the B12 suppliment, there was a bottle beside it called Vitamin B Stress Tabs. I guess that vitamin B is the thing to take for stress !
Also, make sure to get in 8 - 10 glasses of water a day. I find that if I don't drink the water, the stress levels rise.
If you attempt to go to church and you freak out on the way and you have to turn around, it's no big deal. God will understand !
Life gives us enough stress. Don't give yourself stress.
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Thanks Paislee and Mano and welcome Sowhatif
I have been on anti-depressants for years. I suffered for years about 25 yrs wishing I was dead (even as a small child) and well meaning folk just said I needed to read the bible more and exercise and all would be well. I did all of that and more and took a B vitamin and none of it worked till I got on meds. For the first time in my whole life I actually wanted to live and enjoyed life and my faith and everything. Even my anxiety which had been depressions twin went away and then about 4 yrs ago it came back with a vengance. I have been working the program and saw success. I was staying out of my totally homebound agoraphobia but I am very limited with what I can do. Getting life back on track is a series of things to do on a regular basis. It would be awesome if it was just 1 Thing and BAM everyone would be wonderful all the time. That's just stinking thinking..i.e. unrealistic thinking. I do this alot and I think others probably do to. To my demise. I focus on the one thing I need to do and fight to do "that thing" and not really have been focusing on getting control of my panicky mindset and negative self-talk when I am in a scary scenario. whew. Anywhoo nothing has helped me relax quickly when panic escalates. On top of panicking because I felt claustrophobic in the car with hubby I also was lost because I took the wrong turn back home and it got worse super fast. My mind got so CLOUDY it was like the worst case of medicine head ( best way to describe the sensation)and in Seconds !!! My self talk of "it's just anxiety, it will go away , it always does, its no big deal. Did NOTHING for me!! I was so tense, Hard as a rock shoulders and all I kept thinking is "should I slap myself?" I was so desperate to "snap out of it". Anyway like I said before I am not going to stop fighting this and I will have a life. It's just going to take time. I wont take Ativan or anything like that . I have enough medicine in me already haha. So I just wondered what success some of you have had helping yourself "SNAP OUT OF IT..and relatively quickly so that you can focus on your breathing?
J~
I have been on anti-depressants for years. I suffered for years about 25 yrs wishing I was dead (even as a small child) and well meaning folk just said I needed to read the bible more and exercise and all would be well. I did all of that and more and took a B vitamin and none of it worked till I got on meds. For the first time in my whole life I actually wanted to live and enjoyed life and my faith and everything. Even my anxiety which had been depressions twin went away and then about 4 yrs ago it came back with a vengance. I have been working the program and saw success. I was staying out of my totally homebound agoraphobia but I am very limited with what I can do. Getting life back on track is a series of things to do on a regular basis. It would be awesome if it was just 1 Thing and BAM everyone would be wonderful all the time. That's just stinking thinking..i.e. unrealistic thinking. I do this alot and I think others probably do to. To my demise. I focus on the one thing I need to do and fight to do "that thing" and not really have been focusing on getting control of my panicky mindset and negative self-talk when I am in a scary scenario. whew. Anywhoo nothing has helped me relax quickly when panic escalates. On top of panicking because I felt claustrophobic in the car with hubby I also was lost because I took the wrong turn back home and it got worse super fast. My mind got so CLOUDY it was like the worst case of medicine head ( best way to describe the sensation)and in Seconds !!! My self talk of "it's just anxiety, it will go away , it always does, its no big deal. Did NOTHING for me!! I was so tense, Hard as a rock shoulders and all I kept thinking is "should I slap myself?" I was so desperate to "snap out of it". Anyway like I said before I am not going to stop fighting this and I will have a life. It's just going to take time. I wont take Ativan or anything like that . I have enough medicine in me already haha. So I just wondered what success some of you have had helping yourself "SNAP OUT OF IT..and relatively quickly so that you can focus on your breathing?
J~
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Sowhatif--Well, I use to not be afraid of many things. But when one feels anxiety and fearful feelings, jittery sensations that feels like you are going to go down a roller coaster you really don't want to be on, that is what we're afraid of.
Now when we see a Good Dr or Therapist and listen to Lucinda's CDs it all makes sense. Since I posted earlier I listened to Lucinda's CDs#2,3,4, and will continue. But I prepared for my party I'm going to and will have my CD in my vehicle and head on out. But I feel much better after having listened to them and learned some new things and reviewed some things I might have learned before.
I just never needed Xanax before and I'm staying off of them the best I can. I don't want to be dependent on them.
Anyway, we all have experiences in our lives that were shocking at one time, etc. I lost a son to suicide, but before that suffered from extreme stressful situations that led to a deep depression.
So that in a nutshell is what I'm working with is anxiety symptoms that I don't know why I'm feeling them, but I'm working on it with the program and others on the Program.
Good Job, Jill-- I have to get going, but I plan on rereading your posting. Have a good evening!
Paislee
Now when we see a Good Dr or Therapist and listen to Lucinda's CDs it all makes sense. Since I posted earlier I listened to Lucinda's CDs#2,3,4, and will continue. But I prepared for my party I'm going to and will have my CD in my vehicle and head on out. But I feel much better after having listened to them and learned some new things and reviewed some things I might have learned before.
I just never needed Xanax before and I'm staying off of them the best I can. I don't want to be dependent on them.
Anyway, we all have experiences in our lives that were shocking at one time, etc. I lost a son to suicide, but before that suffered from extreme stressful situations that led to a deep depression.
So that in a nutshell is what I'm working with is anxiety symptoms that I don't know why I'm feeling them, but I'm working on it with the program and others on the Program.
Good Job, Jill-- I have to get going, but I plan on rereading your posting. Have a good evening!
PaisleeHi Jill,
I get anxious in a Church setting as well, I just passed up my Nephews wedding yesterday. I
didn't trust myself to sit still for 40 minutes
without being overcome. In my case that means
fainting. I started the program not long ago,
and I think it makes sense, but like you I have
trouble snapping out of anxious episodes. I think we all have to focus on the positive which of course is tough for many of us and to trust the program - I think you should be proud of yourself for making it those 4 blocks, you have no reason to be angry at yourself. good luck.
- KB
I get anxious in a Church setting as well, I just passed up my Nephews wedding yesterday. I
didn't trust myself to sit still for 40 minutes
without being overcome. In my case that means
fainting. I started the program not long ago,
and I think it makes sense, but like you I have
trouble snapping out of anxious episodes. I think we all have to focus on the positive which of course is tough for many of us and to trust the program - I think you should be proud of yourself for making it those 4 blocks, you have no reason to be angry at yourself. good luck.
- KB
Thanks T
I had been faithfully doing the relaxation every day for over a year and it hasn't helped me as much as I would have liked. I am looking into some other relaxation tapes too. I had been doing all of my exercises , that is what has enabled me to go anywhere at all. And to run the food bank and so on. Yet this issue with being in the car has been my Thorn and feeling "trapped" in the car with him has been a constant struggle. In the past he would remind me that at anytime I could just open the window for some air to feel better but what may have been some of a setback is when our window broke and I cannot open it now. But I do have the sun roof and that helps TONS but not when it's raining and snowing....Yikes!!! Anyway there are many tools to use to recover and cope. Not every single tool helps every single person the same way. Much like dieting, everyone has to find what works for them. I think the program is great, but there's still some areas that I need some deeper help with. Too bad I cannot afford the phone counseling. It's super duper expensive but those who used it made bigger and better strides. Anyway Iam not going to go into the money thing . Just know that I have been and am doing my stuff.And I will keep on keeping on. Prayers always welcome
J~
I had been faithfully doing the relaxation every day for over a year and it hasn't helped me as much as I would have liked. I am looking into some other relaxation tapes too. I had been doing all of my exercises , that is what has enabled me to go anywhere at all. And to run the food bank and so on. Yet this issue with being in the car has been my Thorn and feeling "trapped" in the car with him has been a constant struggle. In the past he would remind me that at anytime I could just open the window for some air to feel better but what may have been some of a setback is when our window broke and I cannot open it now. But I do have the sun roof and that helps TONS but not when it's raining and snowing....Yikes!!! Anyway there are many tools to use to recover and cope. Not every single tool helps every single person the same way. Much like dieting, everyone has to find what works for them. I think the program is great, but there's still some areas that I need some deeper help with. Too bad I cannot afford the phone counseling. It's super duper expensive but those who used it made bigger and better strides. Anyway Iam not going to go into the money thing . Just know that I have been and am doing my stuff.And I will keep on keeping on. Prayers always welcome
J~