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sofia miranda
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Post by sofia miranda » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:30 am

hey guys need some advise i have all the scary thoughts like you but resently one of my roommate has schizophrenia and i worry that i get it too. ive been having thoughts about what if i go crazy what if i see something and then i start picturing a scarry image and it scares me to death please help

Gman5256
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Post by Gman5256 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:46 am

Hello Sofia,

There is a reason many people spoke and wrote about this subject. I am going to turn my effort here not to focus on whether scary thoughts are valid or not. I am going to tell that they don't matter in the larger view of things.

I learned something today, that should help each person here, but the key to overcoming any problem is to be informed. Many people receive and either get it, or don't, based on how they best grasp what is being taught. Through this forum we have one means of learning. That is we read one another's comments or replies. Well what about retention of what is being taught through what you read?

Suppose you do not fully grasp, the concepts being talked about by simply reading?

It is very important, what you do with the information that is given here or you get from any where. Take it a step further. Suppose instead of just simply reading a really good reply to a subject discussion, you then read it aloud 2, 3, 4 times? Now, you are incorporating 3 parts of your body to help you receive what is being taught.

Now, suppose you go it still further? What if you applied, what you have learned? For example: you read, spoke, heard, received and spoke again. Don’t you think the likelihood of retention is increased? Of course it is!

The likelihood of retaining information is increased by a greater number of times over the original concept that you were struggling to grasp. It then comes to you; hey wait a minute, I see, speak, hear, and receive a lot better than before! I think you might understand, what I am getting at about the: seeing, speaking, hearing, receiving and then acting process; as a tool for retention of information.

Well don't limit your thinking of the learning process. Expand upon the concept above, use it on dealing with negative thoughts. How about if you have these thoughts, then you wrote down exactly what the thoughts are, and go through a logical process of how you would deal with the situation that is troubling you? Your objective would be to formulate a plan of action, to the “what if issues” that may be troubling you! You sit down, think it all through, commit it to paper, and write it all down all the way to a positive conclusion! Have you got that?

Okay, now these are all things having to do with the thoughts that have you scared nearly to death. No matter what it is, you have come up with, and written down a logical and methodical plan of action, that has a successful conclusion. You worked on that problem, until you reached that logical and positive conclusion and wrote it out on paper.

Now, read it aloud, step for step, and hear you outer voice speaking logic to your inner thoughts. Guess what happened? You talked yourself right out of the scary thoughts! It is your plan, you wrote it and it has a definite positive conclusion, which can not fail! The process that you went through, teaches you exactly how to deal with these negative thoughts. You wrote it. You read it aloud. You heard what you wrote and read. You received it. You learned it, and you put it into action!

By doing these things, I think you will maximize your effort, to learn and retain, that ultimately, shows you; there is nothing that can stand in your way. There is nothing, you need to be fearful of.

Fear is False-Expectations-As-Reality. Give yourself a true expectation of reality. They are your words, your actions: thinking, writing, reading aloud, hearing, receiving and acting. Your doing these things, helps you be empowered over the falsehoods that you had be choosing to hear and allowing to dominate your thinking.

Claim it, and receive it! You have the right to be here and to be happy.

I hope this little exercise I share on simple learning strategies; has been well received, but best of all; would be acted upon it, and I think all here would benefit if a report were given of the outcome.

TC and God bless you!
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.

Hugs, In His Love >:D<

Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"

Laura V
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Post by Laura V » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:18 pm

G-man...I still say that you should have been a writer...You are highly intelligent!!!!!

This is a great idea!!!! You really have it down-pact, huh????

Good Job...Keep up the great work...Sis....

lost_1
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Post by lost_1 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:26 pm

Sophia...You have absolutely nothing to worry about, since, "Schizophrenia" is NOT contagious....You are just scaring yourself with this "very untruthful" thought!!!!

I pray that you read G-man's post...There is a lot of reasoning here...Examine it closely, and try and use these new skills...

G-man is HIGHLY INTELLIGENT!!!!!
So, take note of what he is trying to convey to you...God Bless!!!!

Gman5256
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Post by Gman5256 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:50 pm

Hi T-sis,

Thanks for saying all those nice things. What many people don't understand about my thinking and approach to problems is that I am like the guy that gets under the hood of things. I have never been really very good at dealing with people. I understand machinery and technical things. When it comes to problem solving, the mind and the thought processes, differ in people, usually based on the person's personal experiences and the education they have been exposed to.

How people learn things, differs as well, when you try to break through, to get people to learn something, you have those hurdles to clear. However, if you cover the different ways that people learn things; the greater the probability of getting retention of the information. Additionally, if you get as many senses involved in the learning process, the greater the expectation of the rate of retention of information, the higher the likelihood of obtaining the implementing of the strategy they learned.

When the learning leads to the implementation, then their experience of a successful outcome, then serves to reinforce what they learned. So now, through use of as many senses as possible, that bring about retention, and the actual implementation, that provides a successful outcome, and is now reinforced by a positive emotional experience, that then really empowers the person, and then develops trust in what they have done.

It is a learning process that many people, much more intelligent, than I could ever be, have long known. I am just an observer, reporting on simple things that I know to be true. I am not so much a writer, just look at the mess I make of my writing :D I would rather think of myself as an effective communicator, in spite of my poor writing, and a good teacher of many different things.

In teaching, I try real hard to get that light bulb in everyone’s head to light up. For me, when I have seen that reaction from people that I have mentored or taught, the feeling I get is so satisfying it is hard to express in words. If you haven't gotten to the subject of Joe Cool on the web page, I shared with you; please check it out. I teach things to the average Joe, that can be equip them to understand the basics of air conditioning, and handle most common problems that a home owner may encounter from faulty service of their A/C units, including general maintenance of their units, to deliver efficient and satisfactory service.

I wrote that simple course in 1995. I received many comments about the things I taught there; such as, I hate you! "You make these things seem so simple than what I am learning from the course I am taking in college.” Many people, when they subjectively look at what I write about stuff here, may think I am not going to read that long reply, they miss out; because their own foolishness, bias or whatever excuse they make for their decisions to read or not read.

To give you an example of what I accomplished, in the Joe Cool teaching, you have to understand that it is a college level text book coverage of nearly 700 pages; reduced to the bare bones essentials of 12 pages and approximately 1-11/2 hours of easy to read and understand information delivered in probably 5th.-7th. Grade reading level. The book and course of study is now worth approximately $20,000 at a place like Lincoln Technical Institute.

I am not degreed. I just know how people learn stuff, and I try to put it in a rational, as best as I can, simple presentation, that most people can understand. I try to write things on a 4th. -8th. grade reading level. It’s not because I think people are not smart, but because the simpler, I make things seem, the greater their likelihood, of following through and coming back for more. I appreciate your observations, and I think I rambled a bit too much on this subject.

Nuff said! Sofia, just try to relax, and use the approach I suggest, and I promise, you will make remarkable progress.

TC
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.

Hugs, In His Love >:D<

Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"

Faith_TX
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Post by Faith_TX » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:20 am

Originally posted by highanxiety:
Thankyou for the words of encouragement. The fear is getting worse for me i have to say i am off work still and i may check into hospital as i fear everyone at the moment. I fear for my life i fear for my boyfriends life i fear i am never going to get back to normal. Will my zoloft ever start working. Its like I cant think about anything else at the moment. When i try to get on with something to distract myself like walking the dog and doing the gardening the thoughts are still wih me. The only time the thoughts and fears are not with me is when im asleep. I wake up in the mornings and im sick because of my fear. Is there a way out of this miserable prison because i feel as if i just cant go on anymore.
I felt that way last week and I forced myself to get out and do things and eventually I found myself distracted for little bits of time until after 3-4 days of it, it started to ease up. I found myself enjoying the moment.

I had a lot of fears of harming others after I had my daughter. Once I realized that there was no way I'd really do it, that helped me a lot. I went to a counselor and she assured me that it was just my mind scaring me.

I can't believe how suddenly the anxiety can go away once you loosen your grip on trying to will it away. It's like a cloud is lifted. Trust that it will happen and try to float through and it will subside eventually. I'm not surea bout the medication because I have not been able to take meds for mine. My counselor has told me that it could benefit me to take something for my obsessive thoughts but I can't get past the first couple days of taking it.

I know of many others that have been helped by meds though, and that is one that I've heard of people taking. Give it time.
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
~~ Ronald Reagan

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