Starting again and getting it right

You will gain an understanding of the causes of anxiety and depression as well as some of the background traits, personality traits, and physical symptoms.
GirlWisdom
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Post by GirlWisdom » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:03 pm

:) Hi again. Just finished my day 1 all but the session 1 cd. I'll do that after my last relaxation session of the day. For some reason I can't seem to get into the journalling. I did it, but just can't seem to relax and get into it. I haven't really done any theraputic journalling before, maybe that's why. However, I'll keep doing it and maybe I will become more comfortable with it.
You are very welcome Deb by the way. I know the feeling of being alone can be overwhelming, and although we aren't alone, sometimes we feel that way. Have a great night.

Sherrie, I'm glad you had a good day today and I'm glad you started this thread too. You've helped yourself by doing so, and us as well. Have a good night. Good luck on day 2 tomorrow, and sleep well.

TL7, I agree with you about your own pace, and doing what each of us has to do in regards to the program. Just as long as we keep doing the program, it doesn't matter how long it takes to get there.

Hi Mlevesque. I agree with you as well about the small steps. Celebrating each step and your post reminds me of quote I heard before, and I forget who first said it ,and I think it's Confusious, but not sure.
" A Journey of a Thousand Miles Begins with a Single Step"

Anyhow, take care all and have a great nite!!!!!

Hugs and Peace
'Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.'


InChaos63
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Post by InChaos63 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:49 pm

Hello everyone. Well, today is Monday and I did decide to start back up on the program today. Although I've listened to the cd's before, the information they provide is invaluable. Since I have such a short attention span I have to listen to the cd's a few times to really grasp what they're talking about. I work about fifty hours a week, so I never have the time to do much in my workbook, so the cd's are important. Usually I will work on a lesson for about a week. I know that's shorter for some other people, but I really have to work at my own pace. Somehow, I just really refuse to compare myself to others' pace. You really do have to do what makes you feel comfortable. If you try to go too fast, you might miss something you might be able to relate to. There are some things that I have learned from lesson 1. I have been a perfectionist and what-if thinker for as long as I can remember. That could be why I have such hard time starting things because I know it probably won't turn out the way I want it to. I don't really have a fear of driving, but I do have a fear of falling asleep while driving. I finally went to a doctor and they are going to set me up with a sleep study to check my sleeping habits. I used to attribute it to alcohol when I was drinking or after I quit drinking I attributed it to coming down off of caffeine or the sugar high from soda. It doesn't seem to matter. At least one real good thing I have learned about this first lesson is that I'm not unusual. My thought is that there are a whole bunch of people out there who have some of these same problems. Just some of them have a really hard time admitting to it. For me, it was always a sign of weakness to share your fears. I've always had to be strong and never show anyone that I have any hang-ups. Anyway, it is nice to be able to share some of my feelings on this website and to feel "normal". Thanks for giving me a chance to share some of my thoughts. I will post again, but I don't want to be too drawn out. Take care everyone. Matt

GirlWisdom
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Post by GirlWisdom » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:33 pm

Hi again Matt. Good for you in starting up again and God bless! I can relate to a lot of things you've said for sure. Take care and good luck. Glad you could open up and get some issues out.

Hugs and Peace
'Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.'


just my luck
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Post by just my luck » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:39 am

Wow I must say we are going in here at light speed. My anxiety is up with it all and don't know what to think of it all. I wanted help and some people that dropped the program and know where I'm coming from to go through it and support each other. Don't get me wrong but some I think is getting scared away from what I really I wanted to do. I know If any of you didn't start the program yesterday no biggie it's at your own time. Monday was just a day to say. Everyone who has posted in here has great advice and I thank you ever so much for it. I don't want to pressure anyone and I feel a little over whelm with all of it. I just wanted to start the program over and finish it this time to make me and my life better and happy. I welcome all who wanted to join and if you want to private message me I will be happy to respond if the thread scares you. You just click on my name and a drop down will show pick my profile and at the bottom of it where you can click to private message if you choose that it would be fine with me all I want is to help and support and get help and support. I started to journal and listen to cd one again it takes me a few times to get it in my head. Deb I will give you my email address too so it just a thought not anything you have to do. I hope I haven't made anyone mad that's not what I mean but I know it has scared me so maybe others are too.There has been alot of good things said in here and I hope it doesn't stop. I just don't want to loose what this thread is relly about and unless you started it and stoped it or is doing it and loosing intrest in it you don't know how it feels. I am feeling better just by the first step and starting it. Once you get passed the first step it's not so hard. I never got the breathing down with the relaxation cd so I will be working on that too this week. Starting I know is going to be slow, but I have this big want to feel better and not let life get in the way again. So there is my second day doing it and it doesn't feel like the first time I started the program. I think it is going to be a bit of a struggle I'm in it for the long haul hope some of you are too. Have a Great Day! Sherrie :roll:

GirlWisdom
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Post by GirlWisdom » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:20 pm

:) Amen Sherrie. Nobody is mad at you, there is no reason to be and I'm glad we seem to be doing well on this thread. Ditto to everything you have said.

Well this is day 2 and today wasn't that great a day. I couldn't sleep too well last night, as I was tossing and turning most of it. My mind was racing, but anyhow that's ok. I still have to do my journaling, and relaxation tonight. It's going well considering. I started my vitamins too that came with the program, well they actually came later than the program, but we will see how they are.
Well, good luck to everyone and keep up the determination. Sherrie good luck with getting the breathing down. You are doing well, and step by step is the way to go , you are so right.

Hugs and Peace
'Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.'


GirlWisdom
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Post by GirlWisdom » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:30 pm

Hey all, just wanted to post this poem for inspiration when there are times we may be tempted to give up. Read this when needed. It helps. :D

Hugs! Nite all!


Don't Quit

When things go wrong
As they sometimes will
And the road you're trudging
Seems all uphill
When the funds are low
And the debts are high
And you want to smile
But you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you
Down a bit
Rest if you must, but don't you quit!

Life is queer
With its twists and turns
As everyone of us
Sometimes learns
And many a failure
Turns about
When he might have won
Had he stuck it out
Don't give up
Though the pace seems slow
You may succeed
With another blow.

Often the goal is
Nearer than
It seems to a faint
And faltering man
Often the struggler
Has given up
When they might have captured
The Victor's Cup
And they learned too late
When the night came down
How close they were
To the golden crown.

Success is failure
Turned inside out
The silver tint
Of the clouds of doubt
And you can never tell
How close you are
It may be near
Though it seems so far
So stick to the fight
When you're hardest hit
Its when things seem worst
That you musn't quit.

- Anonymous
'Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.'


Dianne H.G.
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Post by Dianne H.G. » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:52 pm

Count me in with the Starting Over Overs. We must believe in this or we wouldn't be back at all. I'm really taking longer with each session now, making sure it's sinking in before I progress to the next one. Now I'm on the negative thinking session, I really need to allow myself lots of exposure to the materials, so easy to lapse if I don't stay vigilant and catch myself during the day - always something to complain about, but let everyone else be the ones, I'm resisting joining in.

Matt, I was out of decaf this morning and had some caffeine coffee - one cup. It was terrible, I couldn't wait for it to wear off, the anxiety it produced was so uncomfortable, I immediately took myself to the store and got some decaf. Sheesh!

Everybody else, keep it going, loving the pictures and comments. Is that a Loon...?!

InChaos63
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Post by InChaos63 » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:04 pm

Hey all. Well, today was the end of day two for me and starting over. Hey Luck, I think that you're doing great. It would be really easy to feel overwhelmed when you have so much participation on a thread that you started. Up until just recently, you were trying to cope without the program and trying to make it without the help and support you would get from friends on this site. Now that you started this thread, you re-opened some eyes of people who really knew they needed to start over, but just needed that lit'l extra kick of encouragment to jump back in. Some of us can relate to that. Probably a lot more than are actually posting. Which is fine too, because even if you don't post, but want to start over and really get it right, that's awesome. If you get started, then walk away from it, for any reason, it really produces its own anxiety. Which may add to its own depression, or failing thoughts. It really can be a viscious circle. We can be our own worst enemy, which I am mine. I hated myself for spending so much money, thinking I'm feeling better, then falling off the program. Then hating myself again for getting enough motivation to start again. So thanks for that, Luck. You, and this thread, have given me the motivation to really go for it this time, all the way.
Girl Wisdom, you are really an inspiration with your beautiful pictures and your thought provoking poems. New Found Hope has some wonderful sayings and poems that I have also found to be quite inspirational as well and she had also helped me when I was first getting started. There is much to learn from the folks that have stuck with it and stick around to help those of us who lose our way and come back. She is like a big mama loon, to use that term loosely. Of course, I don't know if a loon is a male or a female, or both. Oh boy, I might just be digging a hole that I can't get out of. Laughter is good, we can't always be sooo serious about everything. Back to you Girl, I know what it means to have troubled sleep. I bought one of those sleep number beds the bionic woman advertises on tv, thinking it would help me sleep. Maybe some bionic sleep, perhaps. My little dogs take up the center and I think that they get better sleep than I do. Even being off a caffeine, my sleep is horrible. My mind races nonstop and it seems like I think about everything under the sun. Finally I fall asleep, just to wake up and be wide awake, sure as can be it's time to get up for work. Even though it's midnight, or two, or three in the morning. Maybe it's ocd, I'm not sure, but I'm looking forward to getting a sleep study. So, you keep up those great sayings and poems. I think that they help us all.
Hey Diane, thanks for recognizing the Starting Over Overers. I had been afraid of even having a little caffeine. Today for me is day 10 with no caffeine. Even decaf, because it has still a small amount of caffeine still in it, makes me a little nervous. The guy at Starbuck's says to just go to decaf, but since I've been off of it completely, I'm thinking my body is going to recognize it. My problem is, like I am also being an alcoholic, is that the thought of wanting it doesn't go away. Any stressful situation, and I'm thinking, man, I need a soda, or even a beer. Mmmm, a nice cold Budweiser. Addictions are tough to fight. I think that you saying what you said about how you felt when you had some caffeine after being off of it kind of solidified my feelings. I don't want to feel that way. You have to overcome all those withdrawl symptoms, which for me was, and still is, terrible headaches. I'm sorry that you had to go through that when you did. For me, caffeine is harder to quit than alcohol. The only way for me to quit is cold turkey. It's hard, but it's the only way that works for me. Everyone is different. So, good luck to you, Dianne. And good luck to the rest of you out there fighting those demons. This thread, and this site in general, is just an awesome source of support and I am so glad to be getting to know you all, again. Take care, be strong, and never, ever give up on ourselves. Matt

just my luck
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Post by just my luck » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:49 am

Hi everyone and welcome Dianne glad to have you join us. I like the give a very big thanks to Girl and Matt for making me feel better for what I wrote. Had a bad day yesterday and I guess wasn't feeling too strong about myself. Gril once again great poem I'm printing that out and putting it on my wall to look at each time I think this is hard. You are such and inspration to this group and me thank you for being here. Yea this time I am getting the breathing down and it does relax me too now. I am proud of myself fot the changes I am making this week. This is true I'm feeling better each day I go along and do more with the program. I would like to thank those who responded to me and wish them the best of luck to and hope the others in our group post and let's us know how they are doing. It's like I said before if you haven't started the program back up yet or not at all no biggie you will in time when it feels right for you. If you think there is alot to do just do one thing at a time not all the stuff need to be done for you to get help from it. We are here to help one another that'a what it's all about. I like what you said Dianne about the over overs lol it's and good name for us. Well I just wanted to let you all know how I'm doing and if anyone needs any help I'll be on for a while looking at other post's. I love what everbody's else is posting in here it is so great and make it all worth it thanks you all your great. Have a Great Day! Sherrie

Dianne H.G.
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Post by Dianne H.G. » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:02 pm

Hey everybody, I can tell you are staying strong and it's so great to help others along, thank you.

One final thing about the caffeine - it really does make a difference if we also follow Lucinda's advice about quitting the sugar, caffeine, etc. Well, I still have to have ice cream...it's hot out, isn't that recommended - somewhere...? It should be.

Did anyone catch Dr. Wayne Dyer on PBS a couple nights ago discussing his new work on Tao Te Ching, it was pretty cool. Main take-away: stop trying to interfere with how things go (unless it's somebody drowning or something), but he explained it so well about the control and letting go of the need to manage things in our day. So when his toddler grandchildren came over tattling every 2 seconds, he just left them to figure it out, and...they did. Anyways, "let it breathe." Stay strong! Dianne

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