Changes, How do we make them?

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Paisleegreen
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:43 pm

Ah...Frog, now I know what it stands for! :) I am only talking about my late son because I was asked. We don't dwell on him at all. We don't talk about him or anything. We have pictures of him just as I have of all my other children. If what you are hearing is that I have a Memorial site in every nook and cranny and I light a candle for him, that is not the case. Most anyone that you talk to who has lost a child to suicide or an accident carries that grief. We keep it in check and go about our days and about the affairs of our business and family life.

This is where people don't understand what a grieving mother feels. One must never tell a person who has lost someone to get over it. There is nothing to get over, we are missing someone we care deeply about. It is the people that get over something too quickly that has the problems. Grief has no time table or timeline. Anyone that has a loved one that lives overseas, misses that person and can't wait until they see them again. They long to continue that relationship with the loved one and what keeps them somewhat at peace is that they can call on the phone or write letters, now they get the internet and updated photos and messages about what they are doing with their lives.

Parents of suicide or murder or accident don't get those updates, only a "feeling" of closeness if they are sensitive to it. This is where the heartache comes in, and I'm one of the luckier ones. I got to bury my son. He didn't blow his brains out and had to have a closed casket or be cremated. I was able to touch him and kiss him good-bye and have a picture of him. Thanks to the coroner and funeral home they got him looking presentable. I did not have to see him with his injuries that the men that found him had nightmares from. He jumped off a cliff.

It is only by telling my story over and over does the healing take place. That is the statistics of people that are in mourning. It is by telling their story and be allowed to talk about their loved one is how they heal. It is those that keep it inside and dismiss the existence of the loved one is what keeps those people from functioning and even committing suicide. There have been many mothers or siblings that have taken their own lives about a year after their loved ones death. It is a serious problem. I am one of the luckier ones.

That is why a courageous woman started up the website for parents of suicide and there are ones for siblings of suicide or spouses of suicide. They need a forum to express their grief to understanding people that have gone through it already.
It is only because of here that I've been able to figure out why am I getting panic attacks in the first place, I've never had them before. And since my grieving last week and posting about it, I have been feeling so much better as you said and I do not have the anxiety body symptoms I had before. They have really subsided, it is really amazing. :)

But I had to work out my disappointments with family members or my feelings towards family members, as everything is connected or has a beginning when something troubled me in the first place. That is the mystery to be figured out when I get these anxious feelings. What have I been thinking about is the question. Paislee :)

SoWhatif
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by SoWhatif » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:54 pm

J unless they are hauled in on a streacher YOU are the face for the Hospital. Your the first go to for all wishing entrance.
To me that is where I would want my best first impression. I am abit mixed at who's the boss but there is nothing wrong with telling them you exspect respect. If they have a problem , spit it out and move on before she chokes on it.
Screw her J,
Humble is the foundation of life and yours can be reconstructed to better than new, when new the Foundation was improperly formed "not your fault". Your repairing the old and it will be better than new, new did not have the battle scars and merits of wisdom and exsperiance that this mix has nor did it have the fibers to strengthen and temper.
The on going project is tense, tedious and heavy. I tend to think your at the crest of your Mountain, take time to enjoy the vista and prepare with a running start for the next. There are alot of foothills to master before reaching the peak. At least it is in your site. You are courages and you have "toughened up remarkable well. Just mouth watering it is.

Loveslife
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Loveslife » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:23 pm

Paislee,
Thank you for so eloquently expressing how you experience grief. Of course you are right, and I am in awe of your strength and courage.

Whatif,
Thank you. I feel amazingly strong right now, and my old supervisor's supervisor just sent me an email telling me she will handle my old supervisor from here on out. There really is something wrong with her.

My new supervisor is so cool and I already love this job.

Thanks again for your encouraging words of wisdom and support. Guess what? Thursday is payday. Thursday I will be receiving my very first paycheck from the hospital. :)

Have a lovely evening everyone. I'm just going to take a warm bath and go to sleep early, as I have to be at work at 8am.

Love,
J.

tina martin
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:04 pm

These are fantastic posts. I will assimilate them slowly.

Then I want to share my insecurities re this tenuous site. Where are we going to continue our progress? I don't know if this place has life expectancy or is going by way of LTT. It doesn't take much for me to get such feelings. Must brace myself because I am much too intimidated at AZ. Believe there is a plot at home to get me a new computer. What for?

Paisleegreen
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:27 pm

Hi all! J--Congratulations on your new job working out so far. So glad to hear that the new supervisor has your back. Yippee!
Okay, get your rest, sleep well, and have a great day tomorrow! :D

Tina--What are you afraid at AZ? I personally don't like how big it is. There is a lot of traffic there and no one is familiar with Lucinda's Steps or seem to work towards certain goals. I hope this place stays up. Well, my anxiety went up just a tad, b/c DS has a server right next to my computer and it is installing an Operating System. It is noisy, in my otherwise peaceful livingroom.
He also took the cordless mouse and exchanged it for one with a cord that came with the keyboard he replaced when my other one went bad. I don't care for the new mouse with the cord. As it isn't as freeing and it is harder to press and my hands hurt.

I have had carpal tunnel surgeries a few years back and right now I don't take any aspirin or anti-inflammatory due to the anxiety symptoms unless absolutely necessary. So I've had a discussion with DS and he is a bit cocky in front of his GF and her roommate that is hanging out at my place. I already got stressed by the smell coming from the fryer, they are frying up french fries instead of putting them in the oven. The grease smell really bothers me. Ick! :| But DS's attitude is really bothering me, and GF just sort of giggles. Ugh. Paislee The electronic sound is driving me crazy. :|

tina martin
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:43 am

Paislee I have a terrible time with cooking smells. Onions don't come in here. French fries would cause me to pitch a tent and live there. You are so enmeshed in family, you need a hideout. Here is your hideout with only lavender fragrance.

J feels alone, feels she doesn't fit in anywhere. She fits in here. Why does R always make me laugh with his expressions? He fits in anywhere except at AZ where he gets red-zapped for spicing up exchanges. What did you say to the Hindu? There is a lack of imagination there. Learning and growing and getting well is organic. Not sure what that means, but seems right.

So, J, you are not alone: you are building yourself exactly what I did at LTT and we are here, your buddies. Paislee, let your family go as best as possible. It is what I must do with my brother. R, you know the solutions are there, we just have to find the directions. Cracks me up.

Off to meditate, highly recommended. I'll be sending love to all.

Paisleegreen
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:28 pm

Hi all--Tina, I know, DH was smelling the french fries from the garage and was enjoying it. But he needs to be careful of eating and me too, because of weight gain. I enjoy the taste of french fries but can't stand the greasy smell. Sometimes the grease is rancid. Also, it just lingers all through the house and I love the smell of fresh air. Also, in the work DH does it involves restaurant grease and I am very sick of restaurant grease smells. :x Years of it being brought into my home and gooped on my carpet and floors, as well as vehicles. I have a real aversion to it as I see what piles up in the duct work at restaurants that causes fires. It is very dangerous stuff. :o

I like what F had to say about J's job. I hope she does well today. Yes, I can see why AZ doesn't quite get the humor of things. Plus my posting about DH I can't find anywhere on there now. I guess it is nice to have some lack of moderation here. ;)

Well, the server is still operating next to my computer. DS told DH he would remove it in the morning, it hasn't happened yet. Since he had to work all during the night and maybe what he was uploading from the Internet onto his server hasn't finished. I don't know.

Well, today is going to be a beautiful warm day, up in the 50's and sunny. So I'm going to enjoy my garden and prune some plants and take a walk. Yippee!

SoWhatif
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by SoWhatif » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:52 am

I want my Mapo.

You girls have the unique talent of making me smile. Thanks :oops:

tina martin
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by tina martin » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:59 am

I want to point out that this thread about change is anyone's thread. The ultimate goal of the program here is change, change for the better. So everyone is welcome to participate.

French fries, Paislee, have given the potato a bad rap. If you look at a package of potatoes that lists vitamins, you'll see how nutritious potatoes are. But if they are drowned in fat, what becomes of them? Wendy's has nice baked potatoes.

There are different schools of thought, it seems, in administration of a website. They each have merit. We were spoiled in our previous site. There were topical categories, but not strictly adhered to. No-one cared. There was what I'll call benign neglect. Here there has not been, as far as I can notice, any interjection. This contrast is interesting to observe without passing judgment. It would be very welcome if the persistent hacker is taken care of and chat restored for those who seek it. But the site is still here, no small matter. Ignore the hacker and just proceed undaunted. Never, never open any strange link.

Mapo is very good for you. We love it when we make you smile.

Paisleegreen
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Re: Changes, How do we make them?

Post by Paisleegreen » Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:04 pm

F, Tina, J-- Yep, Mapo is good for you. I've noticed with my anxiety symptoms and being off of AD's I can't have too much whole grain! :oops: Never was the case before. ;)

Well, the server is gone, yippee, but I have the new mouse attached by a cord and it is very stiff! I'm going to have to get the other mouse back. I'm wondering if DS gave it to GF, since her mother won't let her have her laptop when she moved out of her home of origin. Wonderful girl, I don't understand the mother at all. This girl is doing everything a mother would be proud, she just isn't going to put up with being so overly controlled by her Mom and her siblings who aren't as functional in life as this young thing. I think the mother needs some help with control issues.

Anyway, DS could just be using mouse for dual purposes, I haven't pursued it as our hours of awake time are not the same.
I spent my day outside in the sunshine and pruned my garden plants, my passion. :) They got neglected last summer due to my anxiety issues and the sweltering heat. I learned to let go and my DR helped me with my control issues with my plants. :roll:
But now I practice positive self talk when I started to get overwhelmed at the enormity of work I need to do that got neglected last summer. When I started to feel jittery, I asked myself, "Why?", and realized I need to eat some protein. A tuna on toast and milk helped me get back into comfort and work.

I focused on one of my rose bushes and clematis plants. Observed the tulips coming up and noticed that some bulbs are exposed. I was also able to talk to my neighbors about their pasture to see if the woman I'm helping can have a place for her horses. One couldn't help me because he already has enough horses for the size of his pasture, but sent me to another neighbor. This guy said he could take the woman's horses. So that felt great to get that task taken care of because she needs to be out of her house in a couple of weeks.

So I didn't feel anymore anxiety symptoms as I worked out in the sunshine and moved my body and used muscles I haven't used for a while. I slept great last night, but can't recall if I took my Restoril. DH thinks I did, but I thought maybe I slept well because I worked outside. I must have been really tired to not remember that it I took my pill or not. If I hadn't, I figured, I would either stay awake and then take one, or if I had then I must have taken one. But then there might have been a miracle and I slept without one! LOL!

I'm glad that we have minimal moderation, but it would be nice to have chat and get rid of the unsolicited links. I have learned to not press on links that I'm unsure of, DS, Geek, stresses that to me and that the Internet follows everything I touch. That's why FB can put ads next to my page to things that interest me. I at one time wondered, how did they know I was interested in that? My sister told me, that I had searched it and the computer remembers. :o Paislee :mrgreen:

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