Hello annalyzer26,
I am so sorry to hear someone so young suffering like you do. You said you haved tried everything, but you didn't mention a diagnosis. What do the docs say is the cause of your scary thoughts?
I'm no doctor, but it sounds like you need professional as well as spiritual help. While going to church may be good for you, are you reading the Bible on your own. There are many comforting verses in the Bible. For instance Jesus died so that all have the opportunity to draw close to his Father. The Bible also calls God, a God of comfort.
Open your Bible to Psalm 55 and just read out loud to yourself. Pray to God for true guidance. Not a quick fix, but real help, especially since you feel nothing is reality.
And your fears about death read Revelation 21:3,4 and Isaiah 33:24. I hope you find relief and some joy real soon. Take care and be sure to let us know of your progress; good and bad.
My deepest darkest thoughts..
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Hi all,
Thank you T, I am so glad that you enjoyed that painting. These insights are not just of the Bible, but of the culture and experiences of the time. That is why, when Jesus spoke in the terms He spoke, it was clearly understood by the people of His day.
My studies were not just of the Bible, but Historical and cultural, as well and exploring certain concepts and theories by critics that were determined to disprove the Bible just as I tried when I began my studies 25 years ago. It is because of preconceived perceptions, that push us toward unbelief desire to deliberately disprove something that is beyond any of our wildest imaginations, that ultimately concluded with the conversion! We all have the spirit of the Apostle Thomas, until we come face to face with the reality that God is! And there He is staring back at us, in His badly tortured state.
That is why Paul said, the Jews look for a sign, the Greeks for wisdom, but we preach Christ Crucified, and it is a stumbling block to them. For the wisdom of God is foolishness to the wise of the world, and the wisdom of the world is foolishness to God! It goes on even better than I can state off the top of my head please read 1 Cor. 1:17-31
http://www.holybible.com/resou...orinthians&Chapter=1
Oh my God, we need some Praise music, we got church going on here! Amen!!!
Give a Shout Out To The Lord, Oh Glory!
Come on now, Praise Him!
Because He Delivers All Of His Children
He'll Take You Just As You Are, Don't Worry He'll Change You
Get Addicted To Him and Come Strong!
Okay, did I help to get you out of the funk? Understand this: Count on His Faithfulness; Not Yours
In deed you are His treasure! Take that, accept it, and put it in your heart. Cherish this and share it with some one you love!
I love you all my brothers and sisters. I pray that He bless all of you all the more. If you made it to this point, don't worry, He's been carrying you; for knows how long!
Thank you T, I am so glad that you enjoyed that painting. These insights are not just of the Bible, but of the culture and experiences of the time. That is why, when Jesus spoke in the terms He spoke, it was clearly understood by the people of His day.
My studies were not just of the Bible, but Historical and cultural, as well and exploring certain concepts and theories by critics that were determined to disprove the Bible just as I tried when I began my studies 25 years ago. It is because of preconceived perceptions, that push us toward unbelief desire to deliberately disprove something that is beyond any of our wildest imaginations, that ultimately concluded with the conversion! We all have the spirit of the Apostle Thomas, until we come face to face with the reality that God is! And there He is staring back at us, in His badly tortured state.
That is why Paul said, the Jews look for a sign, the Greeks for wisdom, but we preach Christ Crucified, and it is a stumbling block to them. For the wisdom of God is foolishness to the wise of the world, and the wisdom of the world is foolishness to God! It goes on even better than I can state off the top of my head please read 1 Cor. 1:17-31
http://www.holybible.com/resou...orinthians&Chapter=1
Oh my God, we need some Praise music, we got church going on here! Amen!!!
Give a Shout Out To The Lord, Oh Glory!
Come on now, Praise Him!
Because He Delivers All Of His Children
He'll Take You Just As You Are, Don't Worry He'll Change You
Get Addicted To Him and Come Strong!
Okay, did I help to get you out of the funk? Understand this: Count on His Faithfulness; Not Yours
In deed you are His treasure! Take that, accept it, and put it in your heart. Cherish this and share it with some one you love!
I love you all my brothers and sisters. I pray that He bless all of you all the more. If you made it to this point, don't worry, He's been carrying you; for knows how long!
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Wow!!
I am overwhelmed with all the fabulous responses!!
Newrunner, I work in plymouth:) wonder if we know each other?? how do you PM??
Celyon,
I would really love to see a therapist, but it is out of my budget right now. I do appreciate your insight though, you are dead on...
Mary L Smith,
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sometimes the simplest statements are the easiest for me to understand...
Gman and Tbones,
Wow!! You are two very happy people! I hope one day I will discover the treasure you guys seem to have.
As for today, I am doing alright. I find myself in tears every time I read these posts. Maybe the ice is finally melting...
As for all the Spiritual stuff suggested, I'm going to need to slow it down a little. I know going after God is something that I need to do, but I'm a lot like the preacher on Lucinda's program right now. The very mention of God triggers very scary emotions for me. I'm trying really hard to have faith, it just doesn't come very easily for me, never has...
I need all the prayer everyone can come up with for me that I can break through this and LIVE!!!
Peace is something that I have never known and as I before mentioned I don't do very well with the unknown...
Again, Thank you so much everyone!!!
The feedback has been amazing!!!
Anna
Mn
I am overwhelmed with all the fabulous responses!!
Newrunner, I work in plymouth:) wonder if we know each other?? how do you PM??
Celyon,
I would really love to see a therapist, but it is out of my budget right now. I do appreciate your insight though, you are dead on...
Mary L Smith,
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sometimes the simplest statements are the easiest for me to understand...
Gman and Tbones,
Wow!! You are two very happy people! I hope one day I will discover the treasure you guys seem to have.
As for today, I am doing alright. I find myself in tears every time I read these posts. Maybe the ice is finally melting...
As for all the Spiritual stuff suggested, I'm going to need to slow it down a little. I know going after God is something that I need to do, but I'm a lot like the preacher on Lucinda's program right now. The very mention of God triggers very scary emotions for me. I'm trying really hard to have faith, it just doesn't come very easily for me, never has...
I need all the prayer everyone can come up with for me that I can break through this and LIVE!!!
Peace is something that I have never known and as I before mentioned I don't do very well with the unknown...
Again, Thank you so much everyone!!!
The feedback has been amazing!!!
Anna
Mn
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Anna...When I got saved, the greatest peace came into my soul!!! Words cannot describe it!!!
It felt like my soul was a cup inside of my chest, and I could physically feel it being filled up to overflowing with the greatest peace!!!
I love that feeling!!! It is Awesome!!!
I pray you watched the video that I posted earlier for you!!!
I will be praying for you Anna...
BTW...I have a baby sister named Anna....Her middle name is Marie!!!
It felt like my soul was a cup inside of my chest, and I could physically feel it being filled up to overflowing with the greatest peace!!!
I love that feeling!!! It is Awesome!!!
I pray you watched the video that I posted earlier for you!!!
I will be praying for you Anna...
BTW...I have a baby sister named Anna....Her middle name is Marie!!!
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I was born again at 4 years old. I grew up in the church and at various times rededicated my life to God. When Anxiety hit I ran back to the church and rededicated myself over, and over and over and over and over..... I would get very aggrivated with the people that I would see that "felt" it because I felt nothing but fear!!! It made it all feel very FAKE to me. I'm not saying that it what I believe, but it is the prominent feeling behind this for me right now. God has always felt very distant from me, except in nature... I am not in any way trying to play down the things you are telling me, they have so far just brought me no peace. I pray that He is there helping me through this and that my cloud is just so thick right now that I cant see or feel Him. There is a ton of internal work that needs to be done in me, tons of layers and walls to break down and wounds to heal. I would be in therapy if I could afford it... Is there such thing as free anxiety meetings? Any sort of support group that anyone has attended in MN that has been equal to or better than a therapist? I'm open to any and all suggestions. I desperatly want to break through this!!
Thanks again
Anna
MN
Thanks again
Anna
MN
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Very good Anna,
Good luck on your search for truth, and freedom from fear. Sorry that I couldn't be of any real help to you and appeared only to add more stress to your life. You won't hear another peep from me. Mat. 10:13, 14
I'll leave you the Lord's hands and pray that you will find your way out of what ever hole you find yourself in.
Good night.
Good luck on your search for truth, and freedom from fear. Sorry that I couldn't be of any real help to you and appeared only to add more stress to your life. You won't hear another peep from me. Mat. 10:13, 14
I'll leave you the Lord's hands and pray that you will find your way out of what ever hole you find yourself in.
Good night.
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Gman,
You being as spiritual as you are should understand that you feed a baby the milk before the meat! I told you I needed to slow down on the spiritual side of this for a little while and you and mrs t have just continued to go on and on about all this spiritual stuff that I have tried before!~!~ I know that you are trying to help, but for whatever reason, RIGHT NOW PRAYING AND READING IS NOT WORKING!!! I'm sorry, I'm getting really frustrated! I have read the bible, I have been in church my whole life, I pray every day and nothing changes! It only makes me feel worse! Gman, maybe a child would understand this better than me, but a child also hasn't lived the life I have either!
I am not turning my back on God, just trying to get into my other issues right now, so that maybe, MAYBE, I can have a little bit of peace! I'm glad you have figured out what you need to figure out to live a happy life, but I'm not there yet. Try and imagine someone talking to you like this when you were in the middle of whatever dark hole you were in? Right now I need SIMPLE!!! I can't sit and ponder the wonders of God and his love, it scares the S*#@ out of me! And one more thing that really hurt was, how do you figure I am wasting time?? Why would you ever say that to someone who is terrified of death? I am activly seeking help and hope every day! How is that wasting time???? I need one step at a time kind of advice. WHAT DO I DO FIRST????
WHERE DO I START??? WHAT THE HXXX DO I DO TO STOP MY MIND FROM CONSTANTLY SPINNING???
ANNA
You being as spiritual as you are should understand that you feed a baby the milk before the meat! I told you I needed to slow down on the spiritual side of this for a little while and you and mrs t have just continued to go on and on about all this spiritual stuff that I have tried before!~!~ I know that you are trying to help, but for whatever reason, RIGHT NOW PRAYING AND READING IS NOT WORKING!!! I'm sorry, I'm getting really frustrated! I have read the bible, I have been in church my whole life, I pray every day and nothing changes! It only makes me feel worse! Gman, maybe a child would understand this better than me, but a child also hasn't lived the life I have either!
I am not turning my back on God, just trying to get into my other issues right now, so that maybe, MAYBE, I can have a little bit of peace! I'm glad you have figured out what you need to figure out to live a happy life, but I'm not there yet. Try and imagine someone talking to you like this when you were in the middle of whatever dark hole you were in? Right now I need SIMPLE!!! I can't sit and ponder the wonders of God and his love, it scares the S*#@ out of me! And one more thing that really hurt was, how do you figure I am wasting time?? Why would you ever say that to someone who is terrified of death? I am activly seeking help and hope every day! How is that wasting time???? I need one step at a time kind of advice. WHAT DO I DO FIRST????
WHERE DO I START??? WHAT THE HXXX DO I DO TO STOP MY MIND FROM CONSTANTLY SPINNING???
ANNA
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Anna,
I really do hope you get to feeling better!!!
I will not add anything else to this discussion, since, it seems to only worsen your state of mind...
I was only trying to help you overcome your fears, as I have helped others on this forum!!!
I am sorry if I offended you by discussing the very things, that, I thought would help you!!!
I pray you have a good night...
I really do hope you get to feeling better!!!
I will not add anything else to this discussion, since, it seems to only worsen your state of mind...
I was only trying to help you overcome your fears, as I have helped others on this forum!!!
I am sorry if I offended you by discussing the very things, that, I thought would help you!!!
I pray you have a good night...
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I'm sorry if I was a little harsh on my last post. I do know that everyone is only trying to help... I guess I was hoping for a clearly spelled out, step by step type process that worked for somebody thats been in the hole I've been in. I need someone to help me build a ladder to get out.... It's scary down here and feels about as far away from God as it gets...
Again, sorry for yelling,
Anna
Again, sorry for yelling,
Anna
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I'm just reading this discussion and it appears that some posts have either been deleted or altered so I'm not sure if I can get the gist of the whole thing.
I know prayer doesn't always work the way we think it should, but not because we don't believe in God, it's because it's human nature for us to do the opposite. How many times I've prayed for God to help me stop doing something, then that is all I can think of doing and I start doing it. Pray for what you WANT to do instead of what you DON'T want to do. What do you truly WANT to do?
I believe in order to feel better you really need to take the focus off yourself so much. Your thoughts and feelings seem to be revolving around and around about the way you feel.
I think that is what the other folks were trying to share with you about focusing on God. Because when you focus on something bigger than yourself, you pay attention to it more and your own problems don't seem so overwhelming.
Can I ask - are you volunteering or serving others in any capacity? This way you can get a good dose of reality - #1 that you are not alone and #2 that there are people who probably have a harder life than yourself. This would make the perception easier.
Also no matter what we do, we are all terminal. Our mortality rate is 100%. Many people ARE scared. But to me it would be scarier to think I won't be going to paradise. Why run away from it? We all should be facing our fears to get over it. No we shouldn't dwell on our fears until they drive us insane, we should allow ourselves to think what we think, just accept our silly thoughts so we can move on. It's the fighting in our heads that make those thoughts continue to haunt us.
"Why am I thinking about this...oh, am I thinking about this again?....what's wrong with me?...I'm so stupid....nobody else thinks like this...okay, I need to stop thinking about this RIGHT NOW....Ugh, again?....why does this thought keep coming up??"
You see...it doesn't work. You have to figure out a way to "change the channel" in your brain...let yourself think the stupid thought, and then MOVE ON. Go DO something to distract yourself, something physical. Or call a friend. Take a walk with your IPOD. Go for a drive and enjoy the scenery. Clean out your closet! Make something in the kitchen. Go to the bookstore.
Every time you are haunted by the thought, you should follow a protocol. Tell yourself what you need to do, write a list of things to go through whenever that thought comes to mind.
I know prayer doesn't always work the way we think it should, but not because we don't believe in God, it's because it's human nature for us to do the opposite. How many times I've prayed for God to help me stop doing something, then that is all I can think of doing and I start doing it. Pray for what you WANT to do instead of what you DON'T want to do. What do you truly WANT to do?
I believe in order to feel better you really need to take the focus off yourself so much. Your thoughts and feelings seem to be revolving around and around about the way you feel.
I think that is what the other folks were trying to share with you about focusing on God. Because when you focus on something bigger than yourself, you pay attention to it more and your own problems don't seem so overwhelming.
Can I ask - are you volunteering or serving others in any capacity? This way you can get a good dose of reality - #1 that you are not alone and #2 that there are people who probably have a harder life than yourself. This would make the perception easier.
Also no matter what we do, we are all terminal. Our mortality rate is 100%. Many people ARE scared. But to me it would be scarier to think I won't be going to paradise. Why run away from it? We all should be facing our fears to get over it. No we shouldn't dwell on our fears until they drive us insane, we should allow ourselves to think what we think, just accept our silly thoughts so we can move on. It's the fighting in our heads that make those thoughts continue to haunt us.
"Why am I thinking about this...oh, am I thinking about this again?....what's wrong with me?...I'm so stupid....nobody else thinks like this...okay, I need to stop thinking about this RIGHT NOW....Ugh, again?....why does this thought keep coming up??"
You see...it doesn't work. You have to figure out a way to "change the channel" in your brain...let yourself think the stupid thought, and then MOVE ON. Go DO something to distract yourself, something physical. Or call a friend. Take a walk with your IPOD. Go for a drive and enjoy the scenery. Clean out your closet! Make something in the kitchen. Go to the bookstore.
Every time you are haunted by the thought, you should follow a protocol. Tell yourself what you need to do, write a list of things to go through whenever that thought comes to mind.