Jason
any word on Alpine?
Jill~
Not sure who to be most mad at!
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its amazing jillzmind, were 2 peas in a pod,i can be riding the high road for a few days and then bang, blind sided again by someone writing a check for a pack of gum when theres 10 people on line, and im stuck behind all of them trying to do breathing exercises to see if this stuff works.bottom line is those few days of good i have because of the work im doing, is better than the 2 years of misery ive put myself and family through for years,so pat yourself on the back for the good days you worked so hard to achieve,your doing good, i read your posts,keep at it,and believe me your good will out way the bad,i feel ya kid.keep posting.
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Jason,
I agree with the one who said, leave the aisle and not the store. Find ways to help you feel more in control rather than being out of control.
I usually have to sit in an aisle seat instead of the middle of a row, or toward the back when I'm sitting in a theater, or a church, or in a plane, or bus, etc.
Sometimes I have to prepare myself before going into a situation - like not eat or drink for several hours before seeing the dentist.
I can see too that because you are a MENSA member, maybe you are over analyzing a situation, instead of keeping it simple. Sometimes people who aren't deep thinkers can overcome faster because they aren't so analytical about what they have to do, they just follow the instructions without question.
Also it doesn't really matter who you are mad at, whether it's your mother, the people here or yourself, because we are all going to do and say things that will cause a reaction. The important thing is how to react to all these influences, and also how to be able to get yourself out of being angry.
It takes work and time, but there is always a beginning, which is the most challenging one, and after the first time, each time will get a little easier until you stop trying, and you are naturally relaxed. And then of course you may get a growth spurt every now and again, which is when you will reach for the tools of the program and implement to help you deal with the anxiety.
One thing the program suggests, is that when you "get out there" and attempt to overcome that anxiety, do it on a day when traffic and crowds are low. Maybe go to the store in the middle of the week, in the morning. Don't go on a Sunday afternoon or a Friday after work when it's so crowded.
I agree with the one who said, leave the aisle and not the store. Find ways to help you feel more in control rather than being out of control.
I usually have to sit in an aisle seat instead of the middle of a row, or toward the back when I'm sitting in a theater, or a church, or in a plane, or bus, etc.
Sometimes I have to prepare myself before going into a situation - like not eat or drink for several hours before seeing the dentist.
I can see too that because you are a MENSA member, maybe you are over analyzing a situation, instead of keeping it simple. Sometimes people who aren't deep thinkers can overcome faster because they aren't so analytical about what they have to do, they just follow the instructions without question.
Also it doesn't really matter who you are mad at, whether it's your mother, the people here or yourself, because we are all going to do and say things that will cause a reaction. The important thing is how to react to all these influences, and also how to be able to get yourself out of being angry.
It takes work and time, but there is always a beginning, which is the most challenging one, and after the first time, each time will get a little easier until you stop trying, and you are naturally relaxed. And then of course you may get a growth spurt every now and again, which is when you will reach for the tools of the program and implement to help you deal with the anxiety.
One thing the program suggests, is that when you "get out there" and attempt to overcome that anxiety, do it on a day when traffic and crowds are low. Maybe go to the store in the middle of the week, in the morning. Don't go on a Sunday afternoon or a Friday after work when it's so crowded.
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Hey Jason...
thanks for clarifying that and you're right...those kinds of posts can affect those who are struggling and doubtful over what resources out there are truly beneficial....
Everyone gave such wonderful advice...Please hang in there and continue to keep us posted...
Best wishes to you Jason and everyone else!!
thanks for clarifying that and you're right...those kinds of posts can affect those who are struggling and doubtful over what resources out there are truly beneficial....
Everyone gave such wonderful advice...Please hang in there and continue to keep us posted...
Best wishes to you Jason and everyone else!!
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Hey Jason,
This program, although it's only 15 weeks, is an on going process. I
finished in march, but i'm not anywere near where i want to be. What this condition is is a very bad habit that will take a lot of time to set ourselves write. No amount of knowledge can get you out of it. It takes practice, practice and more practice. I have dedicated myself to do this program till i've overcome my condition. If it takes doing the program 100 times, then that's what it will take. What i'm saying is just be patient, i know that;s something we lack, but that's also what it takes. Good luck.
Bill
This program, although it's only 15 weeks, is an on going process. I
finished in march, but i'm not anywere near where i want to be. What this condition is is a very bad habit that will take a lot of time to set ourselves write. No amount of knowledge can get you out of it. It takes practice, practice and more practice. I have dedicated myself to do this program till i've overcome my condition. If it takes doing the program 100 times, then that's what it will take. What i'm saying is just be patient, i know that;s something we lack, but that's also what it takes. Good luck.
Bill
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I feel your pain and frustration. I'm still mad that I have this problem. I'm still mad that I was raised with family patterns that I can't think my way out of either! I'm 39. You'd think decades of thinking through it would have changed it, right? Nope.
For we thinkers, thinking apparently isn't enough. I guess somewhere along the way I forgot to "take action." (something i've always hated to do).
I'm still on Session 2 even though I started this program probably a month ago. I have not been consistent - what else is new.
My boyfriend is suggesting I see a hypnotherapist. Perhaps that will work? For those of us who think way too much because we're too smart for our own good (me, not Mensa, but Honor Society) - perhaps the easiest way to help ourselves is with bypassing our conscious, analytical minds! Especially if one is a self-sabotager like myself.
Does this program address the issue of self-sabotage and psychological reversal? I believe that's why I'm still not able to get well. I have too much invested in my pain. I create external drama in my life to avoid facing the real pain inside. So how much of this is anxiety and how much is something else, like distraction caused by a one-time or chronic trauma or traumatic feeling inside?
I'm mad too Jason. I am mad that I can't lick this problem. I am mad at myself for resisting any positive efforts I make.
And by the way, when did Lucinda Bassett's husband commit suicide? Wow ...
For we thinkers, thinking apparently isn't enough. I guess somewhere along the way I forgot to "take action." (something i've always hated to do).
I'm still on Session 2 even though I started this program probably a month ago. I have not been consistent - what else is new.
My boyfriend is suggesting I see a hypnotherapist. Perhaps that will work? For those of us who think way too much because we're too smart for our own good (me, not Mensa, but Honor Society) - perhaps the easiest way to help ourselves is with bypassing our conscious, analytical minds! Especially if one is a self-sabotager like myself.
Does this program address the issue of self-sabotage and psychological reversal? I believe that's why I'm still not able to get well. I have too much invested in my pain. I create external drama in my life to avoid facing the real pain inside. So how much of this is anxiety and how much is something else, like distraction caused by a one-time or chronic trauma or traumatic feeling inside?
I'm mad too Jason. I am mad that I can't lick this problem. I am mad at myself for resisting any positive efforts I make.
And by the way, when did Lucinda Bassett's husband commit suicide? Wow ...
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That's exactly what you CAN do. Perhaps you are not convincing yourself enough that it's *just* a wave of anxiety and it will go away soon enough.5) Why can't I use my intellect to get me out of this? I'm a member of MENSA for God's sake!! I know what this is. I know I'm not dying. So, why can't I just think myself out of it??
Your intellect knows what it is, now you have to trust yourself that it won't harm you and by using the steps you will overcome it. It may take some work, but you CAN do it.
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IOTIG - Oh my gosh! You sound soooo much like me! I have often wondered if my anxiety is some sort of a "shield" that my subconscious has constructed to keep me from experiencing the pain of some past trauma. I'm not much for "regression therapy", in fact I think the idea is mostly hogwash, but knowing what little I know about psychology and the physiology of the brain, I know for sure that we have a remarkable capacity for self-protection.
In my case, I've determined that my anxiety seems to manifest itself most when I am on the verge of some success in life; be it a job, school, a relationship, etc. This most recent manifestation has occurred during the middle of a very successful run at finishing my degree and having a job that I really enjoyed and was good at. Now, both have gone by the wayside because of my anxiety.
So, what is it about? A therapist once told me after I suggest I was afraid of failure that I was more afraid of success. That makes a lot of sense to me, but why? Why would someone be afraid of success? I have many more questions than answers here and my hope is that this program will help me either find the answers or accept that some questions will never be answered on this side of eternity.
Anyway, I didn't mean to wax philosophical on you! Thanks for your words...it gave me some insight into my own struggle and journey. My best to you!!
Shif, I think you're exactly right! The good news is that Saturday's attack wasn't as bad as they have been in the past and that I haven't had one since then.
In my case, I've determined that my anxiety seems to manifest itself most when I am on the verge of some success in life; be it a job, school, a relationship, etc. This most recent manifestation has occurred during the middle of a very successful run at finishing my degree and having a job that I really enjoyed and was good at. Now, both have gone by the wayside because of my anxiety.
So, what is it about? A therapist once told me after I suggest I was afraid of failure that I was more afraid of success. That makes a lot of sense to me, but why? Why would someone be afraid of success? I have many more questions than answers here and my hope is that this program will help me either find the answers or accept that some questions will never be answered on this side of eternity.
Anyway, I didn't mean to wax philosophical on you! Thanks for your words...it gave me some insight into my own struggle and journey. My best to you!!
Shif, I think you're exactly right! The good news is that Saturday's attack wasn't as bad as they have been in the past and that I haven't had one since then.