From a neurological point

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:06 pm

Excellent point, Monty's mom. I've never seen that personally, but you're right in that it does happen. When it comes down to it, wouldn't we live in a better world if everyone jumped to helped out anyone who became ill despite the cause? The most important thing is the service to each other.
I shouldn't have posted in absolutes b/c there are exceptions in every facet of life. It just broke my heart to see a fellow sufferer be made fun of by her "friends" when I KNOW none of them could relate. She's been left to dangle and the same people JUMPED to help others.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:44 am

Originally posted by bevhembree:
Excellent point, Monty's mom. I've never seen that personally, but you're right in that it does happen. When it comes down to it, wouldn't we live in a better world if everyone jumped to helped out anyone who became ill despite the cause? The most important thing is the service to each other.
I shouldn't have posted in absolutes b/c there are exceptions in every facet of life. It just broke my heart to see a fellow sufferer be made fun of by her "friends" when I KNOW none of them could relate. She's been left to dangle and the same people JUMPED to help others.

I hear ya and see this myself in so many ways and have most of my life. I tried so hard to understand why some people seem to be almost overhelped and others are left to suffer alone.

I've seen this also in other ways besides health issues. it seems the people with plenty of money to pay bills, buy what they want at anytime and do, have the best of everything, have luck coming out the ---end are also the ones that are given so many things. My daughter has friends like this and they are forever being handed big money items for free. I say they must have a golden horseshoe you know where. LOL.

I have said many times what a wonderfull world it would be if only every person took the time to be kind and caring towards others but realistically I know this likely will not be the case. So I just do what I can to make another person feel respected or appreciated, or take the time to say Thankyou when someone does act in a nice thoughtfull way. That's all we can do. As Lucinda said " Life Isn't Always Fair ". Each act of kindness we do just may one day make more people act out of kindness so I will keep trucking along doing what comes natural to me and also now treat myself the same way I treat others.

Well I wrote another novel..Sorry everyone.

Have a great day.

I'm enjoying another sunny, warm, gorgious day here.

NIHON · Post by **NIHON** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:50 am

I have enjoyed following this post. My reply has nothing to do with the theme, but more responsive to these last replies. When I began first grade, our elementary school was so small. There were exactly 22 first graders in our village school. Several of the first graders were kind of misfits. They were older than the rest of us (we were five and six, they were older). They wore clothes that did not fit. They all got on the school bus from the same house, but they were obviously not related. I was so fascinated by their little group. No one ever spoke to them. My mother was the school nurse one day each week, and on that day shortly after school began, I saw her loading them all into our family car, and driving away from the school. That evening at dinner I asked her where she took them. She told me they were all orphans, and that they needed to go in to Albuquerque to see a doctor. She then told me what an orphan was. The next day I told them all my name, and I sat with them on the bus. During playtime, I asked them to play with the rest of us, and at lunchtime, I inspected all their lunches. They all had the same thing. I traded them some of my foods, so we'd have more variety. Gradually, they got acquainted with the other first graders. All 22 of us went through sixth grade together. We all became friends. I don't know if they would have mingled if I hadn't been so bold. I probably wouldn't have been so bold if my mother hadn't been their nurse and told me about them being orphans. I don't know what this story has to do with your stories here, but it seemed to fit. Maybe it's all about caring. And letting others who need help know we care. Again, I have certainly enjoyed these posts. You are such a lot of nice people.

Caterina · Post by **Caterina** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:56 am

Hi Montysmom,
I wanted to let you know how touched I was
when reading your post about terminally ill patients you work with. How sad it is in our society that we somehow turn our eyes the other way . I am greatful for people like you that really care about other people.I appriciate all
the support everyone is giving in this forum.
Together we can make it all happen. Through our
learning we can maybe help another lost individual and give them the gift of hope
Lucinda has given us. Blessings, Paul

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:42 am

Mike (aka Ninja Frodo)

I picked up Selye's book yesterday.

I will begin to digest this gem, and let you know my findings later.

thanks again for the insight.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:39 am

On the subject of caring about what is going on with other people - I had made friends with an elderly neighbor and visited her every Sunday, went to the store with her, and sometimes took her to church. She had a large family here who really didn't spend any time with her. They covered her financial needs but nothing else. I visited her when she went to the assisted care facility which was the cheapest and dirtiest one in the area because her family wouldn't pay for anything nice. (even though they sold her house and made more than enough to keep her somewhere very nice) I took her a present one Christmas Eve and expected to see all these family members there visiting. There was no one at all visiting her - No one- and this was Christmas!
I sat there and had dinner with her with tears in my eyes in this drafty ugly dinning room. The point I'm making here is that assuming someone's family will take care of everything doesn't always happen and sometimes they just disappear. Montysmom brought up a sobering reality here. So maybe we should make a point of giving someone a gift of our time because this is what I saw was missing in this woman's life- someone wanting to spend time with her. ( I got off the original thread subject - sorry)

Prv31Mom · Post by **Prv31Mom** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:55 am

Originally posted by Mary Wargo:
On the subject of caring about what is going on with other people - I had made friends with an elderly neighbor and visited her every Sunday, went to the store with her, and sometimes took her to church. She had a large family here who really didn't spend any time with her. They covered her financial needs but nothing else. I visited her when she went to the assisted care facility which was the cheapest and dirtiest one in the area because her family wouldn't pay for anything nice. (even though they sold her house and made more than enough to keep her somewhere very nice) I took her a present one Christmas Eve and expected to see all these family members there visiting. There was no one at all visiting her - No one- and this was Christmas!
I sat there and had dinner with her with tears in my eyes in this drafty ugly dinning room. The point I'm making here is that assuming someone's family will take care of everything doesn't always happen and sometimes they just disappear. Montysmom brought up a sobering reality here. So maybe we should make a point of giving someone a gift of our time because this is what I saw was missing in this woman's life- someone wanting to spend time with her. ( I got off the original thread subject - sorry)

Mary,
What a great story to share and sad at the same time. How fortunate for that Lady to have you. I aggree whole heartidly about heping even 1 person feel less alone. It makes their small world so much brighter. Way to go!!!!!!

You come accross a very caring, kind, gentle soul. Wish we could get together and just chat.

Take care, God Bless You,

Deb

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:29 am

Paul R

Cool. If you can figure out that bigger model where they speak about the Limbic system, the Cerebrum, the gamma loops, the reticular system and a few other systems...lemme know cuz i'm intrested in that and i never got it. I also got pretty rusty with this material too.

I actually had to write an essay on stress and epilepsy...thats why we went into so much depth with the stress theory.

Mike

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:28 am

Ninja- Your post reminded me of my brain physiology classes I took years ago studying the Limbic System. They talked about how a thought gets caught in this limbic loop and just keeps going around and around in this circle. As soon as we take some kind of action on whatever we are worrying about or ruminating over it supposedly disrupts this circle. This relates so well to the sessions in this program referencing circular thinking, and getting ourselves to jump out of the circle.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:52 pm

Originally posted by monty'smom:

I have said many times what a wonderfull world it would be if only every person took the time to be kind and caring towards others but realistically I know this likely will not be the case.

We can hope and dream though, right? Pay it forward, people, pay it forward!