Really Discouraged

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Goodtobehome
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Post by Goodtobehome » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:22 am

Just when you think that you have it, I mean I wasn't eternally better but I was making baby steps forward then it all comes crashing down and I find myself saying what is the point? Why am I working so hard and trying so hard to change, to feel better to only have me stuck with the same fears and worry's. 2 nights ago I had a really bad night, waking every hour feeling like the room was going to spin me right out of bed. So I was nervous about going to sleep last night. I had a good night, I slept thru so I thought that it was going to continue being good. NOPE. As I lifted my head from the pillow, the dizziness came back and now here I am trying to get the little ones off to school and I feel like at any moment I am just going to collapse. I legs are sore from feeling like they are working over time to keep me up right. What's wrong with me? I've had tests, doctors, you name and so far so good but why, I am young, I have my whole life ahead of me, I have 2 small children that I adore more then words can say. I love my husband, my house... my life. I am grateful, I am blessed and I thank God every second of the day for the miracles he has given me. So why then am I going thru this? Yes, I know I had major stressors over a very short period of time and that seems to be why this has happened. But couldn't I have just been stressed out for a week and then gotten on with my life? I just feel so down, so discouraged, like I've let my family and my self down. I'm trying to get a hod of my thoughts but the faintness and the dizziness are stronger then ever and the fear that comes with them is dibilatating. I've tried to get others to talk about their dizzy spells with other postings but only 1 or 2 people answered which makes me feel like I am the only one so it must not be anxiety, it must be that I am dieing. It's all so overwhelming, so scary. Everywhere I turn is more stories of someone in their 30's dieing of cancer or a small child that is gravely ill. How do we hear these things and not get scared, upset? How do we not become aranoid when in this day and age and really does seem like everyone is sick? I know it's magical thinking but I really do need a magic wand to come and say, poof, no more dizziness for you. I would be able to move on then. It's my major fear. It plagues my every thought. Yesterday I tried what Lucinda had said to do, don't verbally talk about your ailments or be negative all day. My husband didn't even notice but then he said he thought something seemed different. My mother said it was very enjoyable. My thoughts were running wild but I didn't say, oh no here's another dizzy spell coming on or oh why do I feel like this, or my gracious I feel so dizzy and then cry. No yesterday I kept quiet. I don't know how I felt. Maybe a bit of relief. I always feel so bad when I talk about this stuff to my family. Like I'm, being cumbersome. I feel a lot of guilt when I say that I'm not feeling well. Like my poor husband had to go an d marry someone that was sick. Poor him. The negative thoughts just go on and on and on. Dear God, If you have a moment, I know you're busy but could you please help me. I love this life that you have blessed me with and I want to enjoy it. I want to smile when my children smile, I want to live in love not fear. Could yo help me with that? Could you help me not be dizzy or faint? Please Lord, I beg of you, please.
I am so discouraged and scared.

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:11 am

Oh, Goodtobehome, my heart goes out to you, and I have definitely said a prayer for you.

I do believe that this program works and that it will work for you, but I also think that it's O.K. to be open to some other sources and develop our own ideas about anxiety if it helps us. I think this program even encourages seeking out positive sources, and some of the sources that I have sought out will influence what I say.

From reading your post, I can just see that you don't feel good about yourself and you think that you aren't as valuable because you have anxiety and sickness. First of all, and since you brought up God, I want to assure you that God loves you. In fact, I want to remind you of the scripture in 2 Corinthians 11, 12. Here, Paul is talking about how he requested that God alleviate him from an ailment repeatedly, but he has not been cured. Paul says that he learns to have peace because when he is weak, God is strong. Therefore, he will even boast about his weaknesses because God is actually glorified in those circumstances. Goodtobehome, you are just a person. You have strengths and weaknesses, and no matter what your weaknesses, God loves you and He will work through you. You are not worthless because you have anxiety, and you are not a burden. Anxiety is just one of your weaknesses, and perhaps your family doesn't have anxiety, but I can promise you that they have their own weaknesses. In addition, I believe that one of your marriage vows was "in sickness and in health" because God doesn't want us to throw away our spouse if they get sick:). I know you feel bad, but you can tell your husband how you feel, and I would think that a loving husband would reassure you that he doesn't regret marrying you because you have anxiety. It is true that sometimes our anxiety can get "annoying" to people who don't understand, but it's just because they don't understand. Sometimes it's because they have their own anxiety but don't feel comfortable exposing their weakness too. It doesn't mean that they don't love you. That's also why you can come here and talk to people who do understand. My husband is the nicest person in the world, but he gets aggravated with me at times. I had to learn to rely on God for unconditional love, and then give myself the understanding and love that my husband wasn't able to give me 100%. He's just human.

I think that knowing that we are loved by God and valuable whether or not we are sick or well is really healing, and I recommend that you seek out scripture and lessons on unconditional love. I really like the book, "Changes that Heal" by Henry Cloud. It says that to heal from emotional problems, we need truth, grace, and time. I know it's not going as fast you want it to, but sometimes it just takes time for us to learn our new skills that will help us make life long changes. Also, here's a quote that comforts me, "Reach up to God as far as you can, and He will reach down the rest." If you are doing what you can and I think you are, God will meet you at your point of need.

As far as how you feel about not getting better, from your message, I can see that you did improve in ways, but that you are frustrated because you aren't completely healed. You said you didn't know why you had anxiety, but that you went through a lot of stresses in a short period of time. Have you ever heard of post traumatic stress disorder? Post Traumatic Stress disorder involves developing symptoms of trauma like anxiety after a stressful event or a lot of stressful events in a short period of time. When reading about PTSD, experts often compare developing the disorder as the same as getting a broken bone. When people develop mental symptoms from stress, they often beat themselves up for getting "sick". However, if a concrete block was dropped on your leg and it broke your leg, would you criticize yourself the same way? If you put enough pressure on a bone, it will break. It's often the same with stress and our emotions, but we beat ourselves up as being inferior if we develop emotional symptoms from stress.

I know that what you are going through isn't fun. I know you are afraid of all the symptoms, and what it could be. You say you have had the tests, and you've done your part. Sometimes things just take time, and we have to keep loving ourselves while we are waiting.

I do ascribe to the belief system that anxiety always happens for a reason. We could have anxiety because we aren't loving ourselves properly, or we are letting someone walk all over us, or we remember something painful from our past, or we didn't get enough sleep or drank some caffeine. I don't know that I always figure it out, but I at least pause and try to figure it out. You did have stress, and that stress just exceeded your learned coping skills and perhaps brought up some painful thoughts about death or being out of control, etc. This program will help you learn new coping skills for stress.

You asked how you could hear about all of the bad news about others and not be afraid. I have an eleven year old son with severe autism, and I don't want that to be something you add to your fear list. I feared that something could happen to my baby, and it did. However, worrying about all of the things that could have gone wrong did not prepare me for what really happened. Yes, there are people with cancer, and children that die and get sick, and it does them no good for us to imagine what it would be like for us if all of that happened to us. It most certainly doesn't do us any good.

I just want to share with you an example about how even in tragedies God works. My son is also known as an eloper, meaning that his autism causes him to try to escape from safe surroundings. He could then get lost or run in front of a car or drown. A year and a half ago, one of his classmates died when he escaped. It was very "close to home". I cried. I slept in the bed with my son that night and with our new rat terrier that I was thankful that God sent to comfort me, and I cried. I sent the family a card, but I didn't subject myself to the traumatic funeral. One of my prayers for the mother was that God would send her a dream that would comfort her about her son being in heaven. This year, my son got a new teacher. I didn't know it, but the teacher was friends of the family, and she told me and shared how she went to the hospital thinking that the boy was still alive or that the family needed help. She was traumatized from the experience, and couldn't sleep. She finally fell asleep and had a dream that the little boy was in heaven. She tried to call him back, but he was happy there. So, as tragic as this is, and although the pain will never be completely healed for the family, God answered the prayer to comfort the teacher and the family in some way. Does it mean that I'm not scared? No, I'm still scared. I do have to do the best to protect my son, but I am only human. However, I don't spend all day worrying about what could happen because it wouldn't do me or my son any good.

The truth of the matter is that right now, cancer and sick children aren't happening to you. You deserve to enjoy the time when those things aren't happening. Who knows? You may actually get through life pretty unscathed. There's no gaurantee of that, but there's also no gaurantee that you are going to endure something horrible either.

For me, when I hear some bad news about someone, I pray for them. When I don't understand why it's so horrible for them or I blame God, I just tell God that I don't understand, and I may shed some tears. That's all I can do. If I feel that I have the resources to help in someway and that it won't tax me or keep me from taking care of my son appropriately, then I try to help if it's appropriate. I've started to see that worrying about how it could happen to me ends up being, well, a little selfish. Please let me clarify. If I'm confronted with someone who is sick, and I start to worry about how it will happen to me, not only will I start to fear what's happening to them, but I will start to avoid them out of my own fear. That could make them feel even more alone or like they are being punished because they are sick. I'm not saying you should go out and befriend every sick person, and I don't think that you are selfish. People with anxiety actually end up being so unselfish that they take on other people's disasters too much. It's when we take it on too much that we become non-functioning that does them and us no good and if we know that that could be seen as being self-focused then maybe it will help us break our habit.

It's my advice for you not to purposely seek out bad news in the hopes that you will protect yourself. It usually won't. Usually, the news is sensational, and really doesn't give us much information to help ourselves. I think you should take a break from the news if that's the source of your anxieties. After I went through an F-4 tornado and my son was diagnosed with autism, and then Sept. 11 happened, I gave myself a big break from the news, and I've never regretted it. Radio is a better source if you just have to have the news. Newspapers are good too, but you have to have the discipline to stop yourself if you know it's not going to help. I'm so much better about that now.

If you do come across bad news, say a prayer for the person, family, etc. Say a prayer, and give it to God. If it's something you feel called by God to help with, then do what He tells you to do, and just know that you did your part:), and He will take care of the rest.

I know you want God to help you, and He will. He already is and He will love you, and He will lead and guide you in your healing. I think that developing a loving relationship with Him is so important. It doesn't mean that you will be protected from everything that can go wrong, but if you experience His love, you will be able to face what happens when it actually happens. It doesn't mean you won't ever cry or feel pain, but you will know that it's O.K. to feel pain sometimes. It has to be real for you though. I used to give God a lot of lip service. I was a Christian who was massively afraid. Over the years, although I do still become afraid sometimes, and I don't want more bad in my life, I've seen how God has worked with me on a personal level to show me that He's real and that He loves me, and I know that He does that for all of us on a personal and individual level.

Hope something I said helps. I really meant to be a source of comfort, but different styles are comforting to different people so if something I said doesn't comfort you, just ignore it:).

Take care,
luvpiggy

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:59 am

Thank you for all of your kind words. You're an amazing person to have written all that for a complete stranger so I thank you. I do have a great life and I know that I have to start enjoying it no matter what. I do believe in God and that sometimes he has a greater plan for us then we will ever understand so I guess that is where trust comes in. Let go and let God. I'm ready to feel and be better. I'll keep plugging away at the course and congratulate myself on the little triumphs. The last test, the MRI result came today. It was fine. I'm hoping that calms me down a bit now too. That was great news. Maybe things are looking up. Wouldn't that be nice... Thanks again. Still scared but a liitle less discouraged, so that's something.

:D

heylo
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Post by heylo » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:00 am

Dearest Good,
I hope luvpiggy's post was a comfort to you. I know it was very comforting for me. My sister-in-law has vertigo which causes her to have dizzy spells like the ones you described. I don't know how you feel about medicine, but there is medicine for vertigo that is taken only when you have a dizzy spell. I'll be praying for you as well.

Thinking of you,
kittylover

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:28 am

I just want to add that my dad has vertigo and maybe you do to. He's dizzy everyday. It's jst a condition - not fatal, so don't worry so much. also, I used to get terrrible headaches: of course I thought tumor, but nothing. Prayed to be healed but wasn't. Why? I wondered. Prayed for faith to be healed and was! try

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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:58 am

While reading your post I could swear that it is a page from my own life. I too have trouble with dizzy spells that make feel drained and my legs so very weak. Of course the dizzy spells always made my anxiety so much worse. I constantly would worry that something was wrong with my brain, what if I fall or can't take care of my kids. I had blood work, MRI and other neuro exams and nothing. They came to the conclusion that I just suffer from boughts of vertigo, two differents type to be exact. Now that I know I am so much more aware when they come on usually before or right after a cold or sinus trouble. Now that I know that they can't hurt me and they are just uncomfortable, I am able to work through them and continue my life. First the small things then we can tackle the bigger things. I believe that one day we will look back and barely remember how anxiety and panic made us feel. Good luck on your journey.

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Post by h.beth » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:08 pm

Hi,
I am new to this program. There have been many, many days that I have been discouraged, negative and crying. I have just wanted to give up on life many times. When I find myself getting bored then I find it all too easy to think about myself and my problems; that is when discouragement and self-pity sets in. I do all that I can think of to not be bored. I told my husband the other week that I felt powerless in my life, he told me that was because I am a victim in life. Then I said to myself that I do have the power; I have the power over my body, my mind and my spirit. Whenever I feel the victimness or discouragement come over me I stop and say "you have the power - you can do it" It has been a big help. But my problem is that I am not consistent with what I do and every two weeks I go through an emotional cycle. Breaking this cycle would be a big step for me. I know I can do it if I but learn to be consistent. Last year I came down with psychogenic seizures, it is the way my body deals with stress. I will faint and the right side of my body will act strange and I will walk funny just before going into a seizure. Most of the time I do fine but if I have too much stress factors they will come and can last up to 1 1/2 hours. Even if I overcome my depression and anxieties I will always have a 20-30% chance of having a seizure. My anxieties have greatly increased so much that at times I can feel my heart pounding right out of my chest. Most days I am dizzy but I have just learned to accept it, act like it is normal and just live my life day to day. It is not my main focus point. Most of the time I don't even pay attention to it, I only mention it here because of the recent post that I read. My husband doesn't even know that I am dizzy most days. It is like I have all of my life have had hearing loss and ringing in the ears. To most people it would drive them nuts especially if they never had ringing and then because of an ear infection they experience ringing in the ears. For me it is no big deal because I have lived with it all of my life. I think that focusing on it and making a big deal about the ringing would only make matters worse for me. It wouldn't do me any good and it wouldn't solve the problem of getting rid of the ringing. I would be talking into the wind if I did so. So I take control of the situation and live my life. No one looking at me would know that I have ringing. Like this traumatologist told me that experiencing trauma in your life it is normal to feel depressed, stressed and have anxiety. When you have these kinds of feelings hold on to yourself and understand that you are not going crazy, it is the way the body deals with the trauma. But if you believe in yourself strong enough they will go away and it is no embarrassment, shame or guilt to seek for outside help. With me I need help to get rid of the anxieties and depression, but if I accept where I am and accept that I need help and don't feel embarrassed about it I find that I can get somewhere.

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Post by Guest » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:06 am

It can be very discouraging when you're taking steps to recovering your true self so that you can live your life to the fullest.

I had MANY hiccups in my road to recovery and it was tough. There were times where I did give up and let the anxiety defeat me, as there were times where I just didn't care anymore. I figured I'd always "be this way."

DON'T GIVE UP and don't let setbacks hold you back. I want to see you enjoy your life even when times get hard. Anxiety is a response to stress and fear. Don't let stress and fear run your life. If need be, avoid watching/reading news and avoid bad news.

Don't feel sorry for yourself, don't feel guilty, don't feel anything except courageous and faithful, strong, and fearless. The anxiety is getting to you making you feel like you're not good enough. You ARE GOOD ENOUGH. You DESERVE to be happy and live your life without anxiety.

I prayed to God over and over "why me?" and "please, help me!" It's not that He didn't and it's not that He didn't listen to me, but instead, He opened my eyes to see that I had the skills to do this and He had given me strength and faith in myself. If you truly don't believe, feeling negative and being hard on yourself, then you're preventing yourself from fully achieving your goal.

You have the support from family and loves ones, you have the necessary skills to overcome this. I can relate to what you wrote because I have said and thought all those things but those now, are a thing of the past that I will never look back on.

I believe that you will overcome but you need to rid that negativity in your heart holding you back (which I honestly think is the Devil not wanting you to get better) and face fear right in the face and tell it that you will no longer control me as only you have power over yourself.

I can't wait to read the post where you tell everyone that you are anxiety free and the steps you took to get there. :D

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Post by Guest » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:32 am

Hello goodtohome, it can be so discouraging when we are trying to push forward but can't see when we are making progress. this is something I have to remind myself often, be kind and be patient with myself.

Try and focus on the fact that your tests and doctors are telling you evrything is ok, thank God. I don't experince dizziness but I know I have read many posts on here about people who have. This forum is a great place to come for support. The people here are wonderful.

It's so hard when our families get tired of listening to us. But know that this forum has people on here who know what we are experiencing and can help. Don't get discouraged when someone doesn't immediately reply. Post again.

I will say a prayer for you. take care and God Bless.

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Post by Guest » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:35 am

My husband just lost his job of over 10 years. We have no income and a brand new house. He was told it was just numbers. He has missed every holiday, ever birthday, he sometimes would not come home for over 36 hours, he would sleep at the office, he's IT. I don't know what to do and the anxiety is really hard to get a hold of now and now I am worried about him. Why does it sometimes seem that everything that can go wrong does? :(

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