Depression & The Digestive System

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NinjaFrodo
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Post by NinjaFrodo » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:44 am

You're probabbly thinking...what the heck does your internal crapper have to do with how you feel well I'll tell you in both within the context of Western & Eastern theory.

Our bodies digestive system functions to take in food and drink and convert that into energy for our bodies and removing the non-useable parts and toxins out. When it can do this on a normal level the person is healthy...However, when these wastes (toxins & non-useable parts which can actually become toxic if they stay in too long) sit in our systems, our bodies reabsorb the toxicity back in and it does this through the intestines. What does this mean? This means that the energy you are getting from your food and drink is actually getting used up quicker because your body has to work harder to rebalance itself. This is when we start to get diseases and illnesses and such...or at least one of the major times this happens.

On top of this there is also a significant ammount of Serotonin created within the intestines...You know that chemical that has been talked about within the program which makes us happy...yes thats right...it is made in the same place as your crap. I know thats alot to digest (pun intended :P). So when we cannot eliminate the toxins at a decent level, the body cannot create this serotonin as much and thats just sad.

On to the Eastern theory. The Easterners look at each vital organ having it's own characteristics such as having their own flavor, color, element and symptoms when they are out of balance. They also pair up the organs into 6 pairs and they suggest that when one organ of a pair is imbalanced then so is the other one. Now I'm only going to mention the pair that is important to this topic...that would be the lung and large intestine. The lungs are in charge of acceptence of air, of words and ideas and the intestines are in charge of letting go of feces, emotions and memories. Think of it as a jar...if we have to much of something the jar gets full and it is almost impossible to put more things in without it overflowing..so the more crap we have in our jar, the less room we have for the good positive things we try to put in there. This is why i believe we have a hard time accepting other people's kind words or even our own for that matter. It doesn't just happen on this level either. Sometimes this can manifest as asthma, allergies, grief/sadness (the emotion of the lungs when it is inbalanced), shortness of breath, frequent colds/flus and a number of other things.

So what do we do?

If we do breathing exercises this can help to release our emotions. If we clean out our intestines it can allow us to release emotions and accept more positive things. It can even help to remove some of our diseases as well. Looking at it on more of a western sense...when we have the stress response it releases adrenaline which actually supresses a few systems of the body like the immune system and the digestive system. If we can use those breathing techniques and calm this response down then the downtime of your digestive system won't be as long and your digestion will increase...if your digestion increases then your body has the opportunity to create more of this awesome neurochemical, Serotonin.

There is alot more going on then this but I do not feel that getting overly technical is a good idea so I'll leave you with this. I also would like to say that i have experienced things getting better simply from working on my digestive system and using relaxation techniques...these things included; energy, sleep, mood, breathing, acceptance of myself and others...ect.
I'm actually just starting to do a detox along with this program and its still early (day 2) but i'm feeling pretty good and if anybody would like some suggestions on things you could do to help out your digestive system you're welcome to PM me.


Mike
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Post by shimdan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:03 am

Hi
I know this is off the subject but you know so much about health. do you know anything about l-theanine? I caught a show( last min or so) talking about this supplement and suppose to help with sleep etc. Is it something in green tea?

thanks

joy jenkins
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Post by joy jenkins » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:17 am

Hi Nimja-Frodo (sorry, sure I have got the name wrong but am not able to see it from here)! I just wondered whether you could give me any advice, thoughts, whatever regarding depression/anxiety and the digestive system. I am suffering from severe tummy aches (lower part of the stomach) and constant diahrea. The ache comes and goes, but I feel there is something definitely not right. Could this just be related to the anxiety/depression I am going through or do you think it is probably something more serious? I have an appointment with a specialist in October so hope to find out more then. Also having an ultra-sound next week, but it is really getting me down and is very worrisome. I am an older lady (69) so perhaps that has something to do with it. I am just at a loss with this. I do see a psychiatrist and he is seriously wondering if this physical problem is 100% due to my emotional problems, in fact I think he thinks this is the case, but of course he agrees it should be checked out by a regular doctor/specialist. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks,
Joy

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Post by NinjaFrodo » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:12 pm

Hey Shimdan, I know a bit about health, part of my training. L-theanine...there is a chemical in green tea that calms you down that started with an L...it may be this one. I don't know too much about this suppliment. I'd suggest figuring out why you may have sleep issues...could it be eatting within 2 hours of going to bed? what foods and drinks do you eat? what kind of sleep problems are they? Good questions to help figure it out.

Joy Jenkins
I'm sorry that you are suffering with this problem and i'm sure it is very frustrating for you. Unfortunately what you may have could be many diffrent things and I couldn't say for sure what it could be...I'm also not a doctor so I'm not allowed to give you a complete diagnosis...I can however make a suggestions as what it could be.

I'm glad you are going for these tests as they can tell you more. Anyways, the problem may be stress/emotion related. I've had this issue myself...I had a big social phobia and in fact i avoided contact with other people completely. Then i had to move into my friend's place and started working at a job where i was operating a ski lift and i had to help people onto it....I was sooooooo worried that i got diharrea for the first 2 weeks of the job. It was a nightmare...I was never so worried in my life and also i never had the diharrea like this. I had also had those nasty crampy and even sometimes stabbing feelings.

Does it get worse if you are more stressed out? Is there mucous or blood in the stool? What kinds of foods do you eat and do certain foods make it worse?

Mike
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Post by shimdan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:25 pm

Sleep has been a real problem since about 8 years old. Overthinking and anxiety plus depression. So hoping this program will help. I am on the lesson about expectations now. I just set myself up for disaster on this one in every area but now I am aware of it at least.That is a start.

I am trying to up my calcium,magnesium and take L-Tryptophan( this has helped some but not every night) No exciting reading before bed. Stick to car manuals or the history of snails in the Artic LOL

thanks for the reply.The plushies are still ruling at my son's aprtment. What is a mom to do?

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Post by NinjaFrodo » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:43 pm

ha...still with the plushies eh?

You could try using passionflower in tincture or tea form...its a great herb to calm you down, Valerian is good for this and sleep as well.


Mike
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Post by NinjaFrodo » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:36 am

Hey ok i'm back...I was waiting until i finished my cleanse...for those of you who don't know I did the Master cleanse which is like a fast but not a true one. I did it for 25 days and then started to slowly come off. I figured i'd share with you what i've benefitted by doing the cleanse.


I have gotten sooooooooo much from this cleanse and am very greatful that i found it and did it. I'm also greatful for the support here on the forum and I'll definately do this cleanse again at a later period. I'd like to share what i've gained from going through these last 24 days.

I feel alot more positive...it is as if my anxiety has reduced by 3/4, I like myself more and i can connect with people. I am more accepting of habit changes and trying new things as opposed to being stuck in my daily living cycle where it was the same thing everyday and i was too afraid to change. I am started to actually share in the pleasure of other people...when they're happy, when they accomplish things...I couldn't do this before...I was too inwardly focused.

I've learned how to appreciate food and the reason why we eat. Before the cleanse, I ate because things tasted good and not so much for energy purposes. I only ate a couple times a day and when i did eat, I would over do it and that is actually harder on the body. I had chronic fatigue and I figured that if i ate more then i'd have more energy...wow was i wrong!! I believe because i overate and also didn't take the time to enjoy my food, I overtaxed my digestive system and this made me even more tired. So now that I see this, I've decided that i need to eat more meals to give my body consistent energy instead of big bursts of energy...I also need to eat smaller portions so my digestive system doesn't have to digest too much all at once.

Healthier cooking...I had the chance to evaluate the foods that i've been eatting. I came to a conclusion. I need to cook more of my own meals and try to eliminate as much mucous forming food that i can...things like dairy, eggs, gluten, preservatives, colorants, other chemicals and so forth. The mucous is what causes my sinus congestion, breathing difficulties, constipation and is a factor to the chronic fatigue that i'd been experiencing...So i've taking the time to start preparing a recipe book for myself in an attempt to fix my problem with eatting crappy (no pun intended).

The days where I didn't get as much sleep were the days that i looked the worst and the days where people seemed to be very concerned about my health. I've been told that i looked like i was about to die because of the color of my face and the areas around my eyes. Those days were also the days that i felt more exhausted and i have alot less energy...it didn't matter how much lemonade i had or how much meditation i did...well sure those things helped out a bit but it is nothing compared to the sleep. This shows me that maybe i really do need to work on my sleep...more than my digestive system. I don't need to go all crazy when it comes to buying suppliments anymore. I used to put all my faith into getting the right suppliment or herb that would take away all my problems with my lack of energy, my exhaustion, my anxiety...I don't have to do that now.

Meditation and Relaxation...something i had been avoiding like the plague. I've worked with the meditation for the last little while and I actually like doing it now. I had a meditation cd a little while ago but i only had 1 audio file and I believe i got bored of it. There was one lady on here (Shiva) who actually spoke about how important meditation was...to me and to another person in their journal and I figured i'd give it another try...but this time i'd get many guided meditations that i could choose from....I tried it out and i felt much better and I know that sticking with these is going to help me get out of the exhaustion phase and back into a healthy state.

Spirituality...I am currently undertaking a course that is based on buddhist principals and a big part of this course is spirituality. Historically, I didn't even want to believe in a higher power...It felt stupid to me, something silly and I couldn't help but reject it. After going through this cleanse, I feel that i can accept this more...that there is a "source", an essense out there that wants the best for us, that gives us the opportunities to develop and grow. I think i'm more accepting in general now that i think of it...I feel more open now.

Like i said before...I may not have gotten to my goal but i have made alot of accomplishments and I'm alot better for it. I'm even closer to being the person i'd like to be and i'm greatful to the master cleanse for helping me along.

Constipation...This has been one of my major problems for the last 14 years! I used to have what i called constipation attacks...Basically every once in awhile, I'd get these excrutiating sensations of stabbing pain in a very specific part of my abdomen every time i would inhale...it was the most painful thing i have ever experienced in my life....I don't have this anymore, I feel lighter and things are moving normally now in my digestive system...If i do get constipated again, I know what i can do to fix that (LaxTea and SWF Razz).

I Can SmEll!!! I'm so used to having sinus congestion that my sense of smell had been very much dimmed down...I can smell very well now...this doesn't mean the congestion is forever gone as it still comes up every now and then but it isn't constant now.


I wish for everybody to experience what i have with this cleanse...the freedom it gives you. I really hope this benefits many of the people out there suffering because anxiety and depression hurts and causes alot of pain and you don't deserve this pain.

Mike
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Post by NinjaFrodo » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:33 am

As par request, I'd like to bump this so it's easier to find :)

Enjoy.

Mike
Here is the link to the Letting Go thread which is designated for venting
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