Hi All,
I would like to know if anyone has had their marriage end or nearly end due to being disabled from agoraphobia?
My husband is suffering from depression lately and he made the comment that he has no life (basically because of me). He wasn't trying to be cruel, he is a good man. I agree that he could have a much better life with someone who is not disabled and who can have children. I am sitting here crying right now and I don't know what to do. I told him that he does not HAVE to be with me that he is free to go. I do not want to be responsible for ruining someone elses life. Sometimes I think I should leave him for his own good. I want him to have a great life and I love him with all my heart. He does deserve better than a disabled, barren wife.
Help. I said what do you want and he said I want you to get better but we both know that I have been agoraphobic for many many years and that is not likely to change much. I do the best I can but I am not well.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Ruined marriage?
Hi radarsmom,
I really feel for you. I think your husband loves you, but is under the misguided notion that he could motivate you with those things he has said to you.
You are neither a bad person or a bad wife. Moreover, while you say that you can't have children, you can. There are so many children that need loving homes. If you had to have children, you could always look to adopting one of these children.
If you have the program along with the work books, you might want to go over it again. I think it is in session 1 or 2 that has information specifically for life partners. There is something in there about support and encouragement, what it is and what it is not.
You asked him point blank what it is he wants and you say he said, I want you to get better. He did not say he didn't love you, and I think, in your post, you did not say that he said he wanted to you give him children.
I do remember reading that you said he was depressed, and that he has no life. Did he tell you it was because of you or are you projecting he is thinking that?
I can tell you, that I am so depressed that it worries my wife and she feels helpless because she doesn't know how to help me. That must be depressing her. I want to get better not just for me, but for her, because she does deserve better than me at this point. Maybe that is what is depressing your husband, same as my wife, and not all the horrible things that you may be thinking he thinks.
You can defeat the agoraphobia! Lucinda did. I soon will as I get physically better so that I can feel more comfortable about being seen in my poor physical condition.
Are you agoraphobic because of poor physical condition or are there thoughts you have that make you agoraphobic? I can't say more on that subject, because I don't know, any more than you have shared.
I would like to hear further from you. I still think your husband loves you and he wants you to get better, he just doesn't know how to help.
I pray that I haven't said anything you might take wrong and for God to send you an angel to help you get better so that you will see your husband cares and loves you.
TC and big hugs,
Gman5256
I really feel for you. I think your husband loves you, but is under the misguided notion that he could motivate you with those things he has said to you.
You are neither a bad person or a bad wife. Moreover, while you say that you can't have children, you can. There are so many children that need loving homes. If you had to have children, you could always look to adopting one of these children.
If you have the program along with the work books, you might want to go over it again. I think it is in session 1 or 2 that has information specifically for life partners. There is something in there about support and encouragement, what it is and what it is not.
You asked him point blank what it is he wants and you say he said, I want you to get better. He did not say he didn't love you, and I think, in your post, you did not say that he said he wanted to you give him children.
I do remember reading that you said he was depressed, and that he has no life. Did he tell you it was because of you or are you projecting he is thinking that?
I can tell you, that I am so depressed that it worries my wife and she feels helpless because she doesn't know how to help me. That must be depressing her. I want to get better not just for me, but for her, because she does deserve better than me at this point. Maybe that is what is depressing your husband, same as my wife, and not all the horrible things that you may be thinking he thinks.
You can defeat the agoraphobia! Lucinda did. I soon will as I get physically better so that I can feel more comfortable about being seen in my poor physical condition.
Are you agoraphobic because of poor physical condition or are there thoughts you have that make you agoraphobic? I can't say more on that subject, because I don't know, any more than you have shared.
I would like to hear further from you. I still think your husband loves you and he wants you to get better, he just doesn't know how to help.
I pray that I haven't said anything you might take wrong and for God to send you an angel to help you get better so that you will see your husband cares and loves you.
TC and big hugs,
Gman5256
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"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
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Boy can I relate. My husband does not understand this at all. He tried reading the book Panic to Power but it has not helped at all. He just does not get it. I get NO support from him he just makes my aniexty worst. Right now I have no clue what to do since I have 4 kids a two are under the age of three and he watches the kids. I am in such turmoil and had a real bad day today. I have gone through the program but I am not any better. I have started taking meds which I never wanted to do but I am just so over whelmed by this. I try so hard to do all the steps but wow it is hard. I am struggling going to work every day. I don't get body symptoms I just get this feeling of dread and I am afraid. I had read and done everything and still aniexty. Since I get no support at home it sucks. Oh well I guess I just needed to vent.
Hi Gman and Enough is enough,
Thank you both for replying to me. First of all I would like to reply to Enough. It is a comfort to me that you said you can relate to me on this. I feel so alone sometimes. I am sorry that your husband can not relate at all to your situation. Try to remember that there are so many of us who do and can and we are here for you. I hope it is okay if I add you to my prayers.
Gman, my husband gets depressed from time to time and most of the time when I ask him what is wrong to cause the depression he just says he doesn't want to talk about it but today when I asked him he said that life was depressing him and when I pushed the subject he finally said that he doesn't have a life because we don't have a home of our own and we don't have kids and he wants me to get better. I said so your depression is because of me. I am the cause of your depression and he said yes, basically.
You see, we live in a home right beside of my parents house that belongs to my parents because I am unable to be alone and I need to be with them when my husband is at work and we don't have children because I am not able to care for them by myself while my husband works. We would love to adopt and own our own home but....he is right, it is all me. He is a wonderful man and I try to be the best wife I can be with the abilities that I have but it just isn't enough. I'm not enough.
I don't know what to do. I have the program, I take meds, I got counseling and have read and studied and tried everything to try to get better. But, I am not better and to be honest I don't think I will ever be 100%.
I didn't share this with my husband but I was just thinking the other day that he could have a better life without me. Even though I love him and we are good together in a lot of ways there is the white elephant in the room all the time.
Its heartbreaking for both of us. I hope I answered some of your questions.
Thank you both for replying to me. First of all I would like to reply to Enough. It is a comfort to me that you said you can relate to me on this. I feel so alone sometimes. I am sorry that your husband can not relate at all to your situation. Try to remember that there are so many of us who do and can and we are here for you. I hope it is okay if I add you to my prayers.
Gman, my husband gets depressed from time to time and most of the time when I ask him what is wrong to cause the depression he just says he doesn't want to talk about it but today when I asked him he said that life was depressing him and when I pushed the subject he finally said that he doesn't have a life because we don't have a home of our own and we don't have kids and he wants me to get better. I said so your depression is because of me. I am the cause of your depression and he said yes, basically.
You see, we live in a home right beside of my parents house that belongs to my parents because I am unable to be alone and I need to be with them when my husband is at work and we don't have children because I am not able to care for them by myself while my husband works. We would love to adopt and own our own home but....he is right, it is all me. He is a wonderful man and I try to be the best wife I can be with the abilities that I have but it just isn't enough. I'm not enough.
I don't know what to do. I have the program, I take meds, I got counseling and have read and studied and tried everything to try to get better. But, I am not better and to be honest I don't think I will ever be 100%.
I didn't share this with my husband but I was just thinking the other day that he could have a better life without me. Even though I love him and we are good together in a lot of ways there is the white elephant in the room all the time.
Its heartbreaking for both of us. I hope I answered some of your questions.
Gman,
I see one question that I failed to answer. The agoraphobia and anxiety are from thoughts mostly. Physically I do pretty well most of the time.
Also please do pray for me and no you didn't say anything wrong whatsoever. Your post has been a blessing to me just knowing that you and Enough is Enough care.
Thank you.
I see one question that I failed to answer. The agoraphobia and anxiety are from thoughts mostly. Physically I do pretty well most of the time.
Also please do pray for me and no you didn't say anything wrong whatsoever. Your post has been a blessing to me just knowing that you and Enough is Enough care.
Thank you.
Hi Radarsmom and Enough, Mom, I think you husband did not mean he doesn't have a life because of you. I think you pushed and he blurted out what he thought you wanted to hear.
Perhaps, his frustration is really about job dissatisfaction. Because of the job he has, he can not have a place to call his own. I really think that the Children issue is a secondary consideration. I see your husband as a person that loves you a lot. But he is frustrated, that he is limited by what he cannot do for the both of you.
Next time you have a chance, tell him how much you appreciate him, and he how cares about you, and see if he doesn't break down, and tell you how much he truly loves you and wishes he could do more to make you feel better and safer.
Sometimes, it is hard for us to see how others really love us, when we are so wrapped up in our feelings of fear and confusion. Let us not forget, the kindness and generosity of your mom. Please give her many hugs as often as you can, and let her know how appreciative you are of the love and support she has granted you. Let her know, how grateful you are that she has stood by with her love for both you and your husband.
Heavenly Father, Daddy God, incline your ear and hear and answer your humble servants prayers, I lift all these up to you Lord:
I pray for radarsmom, her husband and her mom. I pray that all will continue to follow the guides of the program so that they will be stronger and overcome what ever fears have them stuck, so that you can move forward with the life You intended them all to enjoy.
I pray that You lead their spouse(s) to find a much more satisfying and rewarding work so that they can feel that he is accomplishing all that You intend for them to accomplish.
I pray for radarsmom mom, and that You richly bless her with many years of good health, and that You shower her with Your Love, Kindness, Mercy and Security.
I also pray for enoughisenough, may You bless her and all her family according your will and riches in heaven and on earth. I pray that you fill her household with your peace and tranquility.
Lord, I also pray that you bless all these and wrap them in your loving arms and show them all your tender mercies.
I also pray that these prayers rise up to you as a sweet fragrance that is pleasing and acceptable You.
Lord I also pray that you forgive me, if in any way, I have offended you or any of these that I have prayed for.
Lord, I pray all these things in your son's precious and Holy name. Yeshua!
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To all who may be offended, by any of my prayers on behalf of others, I beg your pardon and forgiveness, as it is not my intention to be offensive to anyone in any way whatsoever.
Many big hugs,
In His Love,
Gman5256
Perhaps, his frustration is really about job dissatisfaction. Because of the job he has, he can not have a place to call his own. I really think that the Children issue is a secondary consideration. I see your husband as a person that loves you a lot. But he is frustrated, that he is limited by what he cannot do for the both of you.
Next time you have a chance, tell him how much you appreciate him, and he how cares about you, and see if he doesn't break down, and tell you how much he truly loves you and wishes he could do more to make you feel better and safer.
Sometimes, it is hard for us to see how others really love us, when we are so wrapped up in our feelings of fear and confusion. Let us not forget, the kindness and generosity of your mom. Please give her many hugs as often as you can, and let her know how appreciative you are of the love and support she has granted you. Let her know, how grateful you are that she has stood by with her love for both you and your husband.
Heavenly Father, Daddy God, incline your ear and hear and answer your humble servants prayers, I lift all these up to you Lord:
I pray for radarsmom, her husband and her mom. I pray that all will continue to follow the guides of the program so that they will be stronger and overcome what ever fears have them stuck, so that you can move forward with the life You intended them all to enjoy.
I pray that You lead their spouse(s) to find a much more satisfying and rewarding work so that they can feel that he is accomplishing all that You intend for them to accomplish.
I pray for radarsmom mom, and that You richly bless her with many years of good health, and that You shower her with Your Love, Kindness, Mercy and Security.
I also pray for enoughisenough, may You bless her and all her family according your will and riches in heaven and on earth. I pray that you fill her household with your peace and tranquility.
Lord, I also pray that you bless all these and wrap them in your loving arms and show them all your tender mercies.
I also pray that these prayers rise up to you as a sweet fragrance that is pleasing and acceptable You.
Lord I also pray that you forgive me, if in any way, I have offended you or any of these that I have prayed for.
Lord, I pray all these things in your son's precious and Holy name. Yeshua!
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<A HREF="http://www.yeshua.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.yeshua.com/</A> Everyone here should love this blessed assurance.
To all who may be offended, by any of my prayers on behalf of others, I beg your pardon and forgiveness, as it is not my intention to be offensive to anyone in any way whatsoever.
Many big hugs,
In His Love,
Gman5256
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All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
What a beautiful prayer Gman. Thank you thank you.
I tell my husband and my mom (though not as often) how much I appreciate them. How did you know that my husband is not happy at his job? Are you a mind reader. haha He likes it okay but he would rather do something with computers/electronics or a factory type job that is repetitious. For many years now he has been a dock worker loading 18 wheelers.
Please let me know if you have any other thoughts on my situation.
Do you care to share with me about yourself?
I tell my husband and my mom (though not as often) how much I appreciate them. How did you know that my husband is not happy at his job? Are you a mind reader. haha He likes it okay but he would rather do something with computers/electronics or a factory type job that is repetitious. For many years now he has been a dock worker loading 18 wheelers.
Please let me know if you have any other thoughts on my situation.
Do you care to share with me about yourself?
Hi Radarsmom,
I am glad to have any part in what God and his Spirit moves me to do or say or pray to or for you and others. Don't give me any credit, I believe it is the Holy Spirit working in and through me, and I am privileged to be His vessel.
I am sure you do tell them of your appreciation, but sometimes they need to hear it a lot more often. Don't we all?
Most people are stuck in jobs that they tolerate and would really rather do something else that they may find more interesting or rewarding either by the stimulation of the job, the satisfaction or the financial rewards or all of the above.
I am not a mind reader, but I try to follow what people say, as closely as I can. When it is written, there are points in the writing that come through stronger than others that trigger my own feelings and life experiences that I can relate to, and feel I can comment further on those things.
I really have no further thoughts, except to say that I believe that you are going to get well, and have a great outlook, and overcome all your fears, and your husband will be very happy to see all the great things that you will achieve.
Please try to stick to the guidelines provided in the program, and keep raising up your prayers to God, and you will be fine.
Not much to say about me. I am fighting physical problems that have me disabled, and have made me depressed. I think the good thing is that I feel like God guided me to this program and this place, so that I could feel productive and I need to continue to pray to try to stay within His will, help as many people as I can as the Spirit leads me and all will be okay.
In His Love,
hugs,
Gman5256
I am glad to have any part in what God and his Spirit moves me to do or say or pray to or for you and others. Don't give me any credit, I believe it is the Holy Spirit working in and through me, and I am privileged to be His vessel.
I am sure you do tell them of your appreciation, but sometimes they need to hear it a lot more often. Don't we all?
Most people are stuck in jobs that they tolerate and would really rather do something else that they may find more interesting or rewarding either by the stimulation of the job, the satisfaction or the financial rewards or all of the above.
I am not a mind reader, but I try to follow what people say, as closely as I can. When it is written, there are points in the writing that come through stronger than others that trigger my own feelings and life experiences that I can relate to, and feel I can comment further on those things.
I really have no further thoughts, except to say that I believe that you are going to get well, and have a great outlook, and overcome all your fears, and your husband will be very happy to see all the great things that you will achieve.
Please try to stick to the guidelines provided in the program, and keep raising up your prayers to God, and you will be fine.
Not much to say about me. I am fighting physical problems that have me disabled, and have made me depressed. I think the good thing is that I feel like God guided me to this program and this place, so that I could feel productive and I need to continue to pray to try to stay within His will, help as many people as I can as the Spirit leads me and all will be okay.
In His Love,
hugs,
Gman5256
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
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Radarsmom
You most certainly can pray for me I'll take all the help I can get. I believe the problem with my husband is he is not working and home with the kids and he is depressed although he won't admit it. It seems whatever I say to him lately is just wrong. I know deep down he wants me to get better and he just does not understand and he does not know what to say right or how to act right. I am trying so hard to overcome this. Some days are good and others are not but I am still here. I have not gone crazy so why can't I get these negative thoughts out of my head that I will never get better. I am now starting to avoid going to places and yes I know it is wrong. Even work is a struggle but thankful I work with wonderful people who at least I think understand what I am going through. I know I can count on them to talk to when I am feeling bad so that helps. I go to therapy once a week and I just started taking meds but I felt at this point I had no choice. I suffered from this years ago and it just went away for 12 years and then one day in aug 08 it decided to reappear. It sucks I know but I am trying the best I can.I did try to talk to my husband today to let him know that while I know he does not understand to at least be supportive. So we will see. Also radarsmom I can relate in the fact that my husband makes it seem that it is my fault for the way the family is because we do not go places. This is one reason why I need to get better so I can enjoy the kids but I certainly do not need my husband telling me they are missing out on their mom. There is one positive today I am at work and I am doing ok today.
You most certainly can pray for me I'll take all the help I can get. I believe the problem with my husband is he is not working and home with the kids and he is depressed although he won't admit it. It seems whatever I say to him lately is just wrong. I know deep down he wants me to get better and he just does not understand and he does not know what to say right or how to act right. I am trying so hard to overcome this. Some days are good and others are not but I am still here. I have not gone crazy so why can't I get these negative thoughts out of my head that I will never get better. I am now starting to avoid going to places and yes I know it is wrong. Even work is a struggle but thankful I work with wonderful people who at least I think understand what I am going through. I know I can count on them to talk to when I am feeling bad so that helps. I go to therapy once a week and I just started taking meds but I felt at this point I had no choice. I suffered from this years ago and it just went away for 12 years and then one day in aug 08 it decided to reappear. It sucks I know but I am trying the best I can.I did try to talk to my husband today to let him know that while I know he does not understand to at least be supportive. So we will see. Also radarsmom I can relate in the fact that my husband makes it seem that it is my fault for the way the family is because we do not go places. This is one reason why I need to get better so I can enjoy the kids but I certainly do not need my husband telling me they are missing out on their mom. There is one positive today I am at work and I am doing ok today.
Hi Enough,
I read your post, and found a few things I can relate to.
Please slow down a little, and take a few breathes to help bring you down a bit. Please give yourselves the chance to have some normalcy as your suffer through these hard times.
I see you as a very strong willed person. I won't get into your husband, even though I felt similar things in my relationship. But, I know better now. Of course your husband wants you to get better, but he makes you feel that he doesn't understand what you are going through. That's because he doesn't understand.
I know how difficult going through the program can be sometimes, and it sounds that you are being overwhelmed by the many demands on your time. Moreover, it doesn't help matters much that your husband is out of work, and of course he seems depressed, because he doesn't feel productive and maybe can't seem to at least help out around the house. Please try to be understanding about this for him. Give him his space and opportunity to sort out what he is going to do to get back on his feet. It will happen, but it may take a bit more time. It doesn't help that we have a lousey economy, so things are going to be tight. But, we can't do anything about these things, so you need to focus on the things you can do at the moment.
If you get home and your husband has not cleaned up around the house, let it go. If he can't bring himself to prepare dinner, plan to have prepared meals that you can just nuke and serve in less than 30 minutes.
I don't know where you might be in to the program, but you need to focus on the fact that you are in control of your own thoughts, your feelings and the way you react to things.
When you are going home, listen to relaxing music or maybe you can pick up a radio station that may help you laugh, until you get home. Then, before you go in, stop and do your breathing and relaxation exercises. Try to smile, life is too short to carry all the unhappiness you are carry around.
All the negativity floating around is brought on by much of what you think, and fuel by rehashing these things in your mind. You can do something about all of this, by flipping it around and changing the way you think of things and look at them. It's that glass half empty half full thing. Get and Stay positive. If a negative thought enters, flip it to the positive, if you can't do that, revert to the breathing and then look toward distracting, or occupying your mind with other things.
I will pray for you and your family and household.
Heavenly Father, Daddy God, incline your ear and hear and answer your humble servants prayer. I raise these children and their household up to you.
Lord, I pray that you send forth your precious Holy Spirit and fill and provide your little girl Enoughisenough with all that she needs to be able to go each day minute by minute and moment by moment so that she can live the life you meant for all of your children to have.
Lord, You know her, and the burdens she is carrying and that she is distressed about. I plead for her that you may provide her husband a fulfilling and satisfying job that will help him regain his sense of self worth and be the provider that You would have him to be.
Lord, I pray that You be her constant companion, comforter and consoler.
Lord, I pray that Your peace be upon them and that all their days be filled with the joy You want for all your children.
Lord, I pray that these prayers rise up unto You as a sweet fragrance that is acceptable to You.
Lord, I pray that if anything I have prayed is unacceptable to You, that You recognize my human frailty and extend Your forgiveness, mercy, and loving kindness to me.
I raise this prayer and supplication in your precious Son's Holy Name. Yeshua!
Hugs to you and your family,
Gman5256
I read your post, and found a few things I can relate to.
Please slow down a little, and take a few breathes to help bring you down a bit. Please give yourselves the chance to have some normalcy as your suffer through these hard times.
I see you as a very strong willed person. I won't get into your husband, even though I felt similar things in my relationship. But, I know better now. Of course your husband wants you to get better, but he makes you feel that he doesn't understand what you are going through. That's because he doesn't understand.
I know how difficult going through the program can be sometimes, and it sounds that you are being overwhelmed by the many demands on your time. Moreover, it doesn't help matters much that your husband is out of work, and of course he seems depressed, because he doesn't feel productive and maybe can't seem to at least help out around the house. Please try to be understanding about this for him. Give him his space and opportunity to sort out what he is going to do to get back on his feet. It will happen, but it may take a bit more time. It doesn't help that we have a lousey economy, so things are going to be tight. But, we can't do anything about these things, so you need to focus on the things you can do at the moment.
If you get home and your husband has not cleaned up around the house, let it go. If he can't bring himself to prepare dinner, plan to have prepared meals that you can just nuke and serve in less than 30 minutes.
I don't know where you might be in to the program, but you need to focus on the fact that you are in control of your own thoughts, your feelings and the way you react to things.
When you are going home, listen to relaxing music or maybe you can pick up a radio station that may help you laugh, until you get home. Then, before you go in, stop and do your breathing and relaxation exercises. Try to smile, life is too short to carry all the unhappiness you are carry around.
All the negativity floating around is brought on by much of what you think, and fuel by rehashing these things in your mind. You can do something about all of this, by flipping it around and changing the way you think of things and look at them. It's that glass half empty half full thing. Get and Stay positive. If a negative thought enters, flip it to the positive, if you can't do that, revert to the breathing and then look toward distracting, or occupying your mind with other things.
I will pray for you and your family and household.
Heavenly Father, Daddy God, incline your ear and hear and answer your humble servants prayer. I raise these children and their household up to you.
Lord, I pray that you send forth your precious Holy Spirit and fill and provide your little girl Enoughisenough with all that she needs to be able to go each day minute by minute and moment by moment so that she can live the life you meant for all of your children to have.
Lord, You know her, and the burdens she is carrying and that she is distressed about. I plead for her that you may provide her husband a fulfilling and satisfying job that will help him regain his sense of self worth and be the provider that You would have him to be.
Lord, I pray that You be her constant companion, comforter and consoler.
Lord, I pray that Your peace be upon them and that all their days be filled with the joy You want for all your children.
Lord, I pray that these prayers rise up unto You as a sweet fragrance that is acceptable to You.
Lord, I pray that if anything I have prayed is unacceptable to You, that You recognize my human frailty and extend Your forgiveness, mercy, and loving kindness to me.
I raise this prayer and supplication in your precious Son's Holy Name. Yeshua!
Hugs to you and your family,
Gman5256
All for His praise, glory and the joy it gives Him.
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"
Hugs, In His Love >:D<
Gman9259
"He who dwells in the secret place of the most
high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty"