How do I live with Jesus by my side?

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doogiet
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Post by doogiet » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:31 pm

(Please don't kill this thread, StressCenter.com, it's a serious question.)

I'm not religious and doubt I ever will be, but what does it mean exactly to "live with Jesus by my side?" I don't mean metaphorically, I mean specifically. What exactly do I do?

I'm not trying to be a smart aleck here (really, I'm not), but I just have no idea. If it means listening to voices in my head, my therapist would tell me that that's just my OCD talking and to ignore it.

I guess part of the problem is that if Jesus/God does exist, he's not talking to me. I haven't heard him (Him?) say anything.

Please don't say vague things like "Open your heart to Jesus" or "take Jesus into your soul" because I've heard that before and I don't know specifically what it means to do. I'm looking for concrete actions.

:)

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Post by Mimigirl » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:47 pm

You know thats a very good question...I've asked the same one myself...and I have even asked Jesus to come into my heart.

You know...the funny thing is...we keep asking others.
One night I thought to myself, "Why don't I just ask him?" ...I guess it's kind of natural to ask others when you have'nt heard Jesus talk for yourself eh?

So I asked...I could tell you how he (Jesus) anwserd me...but I dont think that would help you any because you're not me.....so on that note...I would say to you, ask him if he exsist? ask him what he would say to you? ask him what he would like to show you.

There are a lot of ways/teachings that make (to me anyhow) Jesus/God so...weird..way out there...spooky...over my head. But I think Jesus is alot more simpler...He just is! My thinking is...if he was'nt then how could we ...have a relationship with him?

You have a good question...I really hope you get your answer.

Take care,

katie

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Post by Guest » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:57 pm

Try reading
Rick Warren's book

A Purpose Driven life

Although I have to admit I'm still perplexed about all of it.There's a lot of junk out there and everyone has a different twist on a relationship with God,I must say mines ,I think, not to good.I must also admit I'm very discouraged as well and as stated above I'm to the point I won't ask anyone either because they don't understand at all, my life's experiences.Sometimes it's feels like it's a circus they say you have to jump threw this hoop and that hoop to have a relationship with God,if you spend too much time listening to these so called teachers they make it sound simple then go on to add teachings that in the end make it sound almost impossible.Try to take the simple approach and stay away from the complicated formulas.Avoid the legalistic BS as much as possible.

Best to you !!!!

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Post by Guest » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:02 pm

I would say that one would need to read the bible and find out for oneself if one believed in Jesus first. If you don't believe in Jesus, it's okay because he believes in you and you will come around eventually in your own time. To walk with Jesus is to say that Jesus is alive and he really is by your side in spirit. Jesus is alive and he does exist. At least that is my belief and my knowledge. I accepted Christ and miracles started happening... coincedences that didn't seem possible...I would suggest you dive in to the book of John and then Romans first then see where you stand from there. I have yet to hear his voice, but I feel his presence. And it is amazing to feel. You have to change yourself too. He takes away all your sins if you just ask him to then you have to forgive yourself for the sins and move on. Keep on trucking. I think just you asking a question in a forum is a step in the right direction. God bless you and keep you safe... Merry Christmas. Hindsfeet

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Post by Guest » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:03 pm

Hello. I first of all want to say that that is a great and quite common question. To live with Jesus by your side you must first acknowledge Him, you must receive Him into your heart. John 3:16 says For God so loved the world He ave His only begotten son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
I happen to be a christian. I believe that Jesus talks to us. Its not an actual voice you hear, at least not for me. Its just sometimes if i ask a question, i seem to hear my own voice say something and it leads me to what God is telling me. Sometimes my questions seem to go unanswered for a long period of time, sometimes i hear it automatically. It all about having faith. And you must know that faith is not a feeling. Its a choice. I choose to believe in God even when i cant "feel" him walking beside me. But i know He is ther.
I hope i answered your question. Would type more but on my way to work. If you have anymore questions please PM me.
Best wishes,
Crystal

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Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:20 am

Hey doogs, when I read your last thread I really wanted to reply to you. I totally understand how you feel right now (or at least I think I do) though I don't blame God or disown Him for my own selfish reasons. If you think that God will make the world perfect, or your life perfect it's not going to happen. I do believe that I went through all this junk for a reason......now I can totally relate to you and about a billion others when before I thought it was all non-sense (so to speak). When you walk a mile in these shoes you can comment then, it appears you have. Ever try talking to someone, even someone that you're close with........AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY? It's because they have no clue, it's not their fault, they just don't know and neither did I before. It takes FAITH (to believe without seeing) for so many things, without rambling on about being a believer, I just know that I've always felt mentally/spiritually best when I remain close with God. I wish at times that God wouldn't allow such harm to come to me. Break the bones in all my limbs!!!!!! But please not the head stuff, I beg, plead, please! And why is a good looking, good solid christian man like me still single? I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I'm saving myself for marriage, I'm in my late 30's! I have tried to stay soooo rightous in life and NO I'm no better than anyone else either. BUT God doesn't owe me anything, it's not I believe in Him and He does for me, I need to remind myself of that a lot! I wanted to write the other day, I do have more to say but am running behind and can't be late for work. I'll look back here later and PM you if you wish.....WE ARE ALL IN THIS FIGHT TOGETHER, and someday every one of us will have helped someone else because of what we went through. :)
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Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:14 am

Hi doogiet; You asked for concrete actions, what do you do? I would say, go to a quiet place where you can pray, in your own way, hands folded, head bowed or not. I think the hands folded, head bowed is to center and direct your prayer but many times I just talk, wherever I am, however I am. You can just talk and ask something very simple "Lord, I'm not sure about who you are or what I should do but I am here and I am sincere. Please come into my life. Let me know in some way that you hear me. I need some help and I am going to open my heart to let you in and leave the rest to you." Then, doogiet, if there are any other things that you want to share in your prayer to God, then share them. You can just talk to Him, nothing fancy needed. I would continue to talk to Him every day as much as I need to. We all have different ideas of how to do this and I hope what I have shared will be helpful to you.

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Post by Jessica1787 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:28 am

I hope this will help you. I have been a Christian all my life, but honestly I never understood the concept of Jesus being my friend or being by my side until recently. I always believed in God and that Jesus is the son of God, but it was never personal to me.

When I started having the panic attacks a few years ago, my therapist asked me, if I'm so afraid of dying then where is my faith? Then it suddenly clicked and I knew that I didn't have the faith I thought I had, and my first action was to start reading my Bible. All these years as a Christian and I had never read much of it.

So I started reading it, but I read the New Testament first, then the Old Testament. I'm still reading, by the way. It really has helped, but I must say that sometimes my personal experiences have done just as much for my feeling of closeness to God/Jesus.

Like you, I had heard people say things about talking to God or to Jesus and I never understood it. I understood praying and I said my prayers every night, but they were just the routine ones. With the anxiety I was desperate for help, and I prayed, a LOT. It did help, but I was expecting complete healing and it didn't come.

I slowly began to realize that I was becoming closer to God through my situation, so I came to the conclusion that God was using my anxiety to bring me closer to Him. Well it worked. Also I had the priveledge of having some very faithful believers as friends, who taught me a lot I didn't know.

One friend told me that if I didn't feel connected to God, I should sit very quietly in meditation until my mind was clear, and then once clear, to simply ask God to let me know how he feels about me, and wait. I did this and I was sitting in my living room. It was somewhat of an overcast day outside. After I asked God the question, I waited about 60 seconds, and all of a sudden it got very bright. My eyes were closed so I could only tell this by the light coming through my eyelids, but it was definite. I got this warm feeling all inside me, and it was like hearing God say "I love you!". I opened my eyes to discover that the sun was now pouring through my window. Of course anyone could say that this is purely a coincicence, but I believe it was God talking to me.

Another example (sorry if this is so long) is that I had always heard if you call out to God He will help you, but there were so many times when I needed His help and I prayed and it wasn't obvious. Then one day I was delivering a $1,000 check from a client to another agency, when the check got caught in the wind and within seconds it was halfway down the block. I panicked. There was no way I could call that lady and tell her I lost her check. I tried running after it, but it was clear to me that was futile, so I stopped where I was and literally cried out, "God, HELP ME!". Just then a man down the street stepped out of his truck, stepped on the check as it was blowing by him, and as I ran up to him he handed it to me and said, "You must be looking for this". I have been telling people that story ever since. It was so amazing to see God at work and in action in my life like that.

I have loads of other examples, but I won't bore you to death with them. I have a lot of athiest and agnostic friends, and I know that from where you are all this may seem a little crazy, but it isn't, and when and if you finally just let go of your doubts everything will be crystal clear.

Email me if you want to talk. sandinafh@cox.net

Sandina

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Post by Guest » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:44 am

ok Doogie! You asked the 64 million dollar question! And here's the REAL honest answer...
If you want to know God, you have to read his WORD. Jesus is The Word of God.

Why are Christians so miserable? Why is religion so mean? Why is the world such a mess? Because the major Christian religions DO NOT teach their followers to read The Bible. It's mind boggling.

Faith is not some abstract belief you are supposed to just blindly believe in. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing of the Word of God. You can develop Faith.

Doogie, try an experiment. Go to your local book store and pick up the Joyce Meyer Enjoying Everyday Life Bible..find a chair, and just read the Book of John. Then stay away from Church and religious people.

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Post by derfy » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:55 am

Doogie, hello friend :) I love your honesty and point blank questions! This has got to be the biggest question even in christianity. I can vouch for that, as a Christian myself. I have to agree with other responses... The Bible! As with ANY "relationship"(and that's just what it is), we MUST build trust and faith! First comes FAITH that he exists..Faith= to believe in something unseen...how is this done??? READ the BIBLE! That is OUR connection between "him" and us. Read about his promises and miracles while Jesus walked the face of this earth. 1 John is a great start!
When we have established that "faith", then we begin to "trust" him as well. When we step out in "faith"(or our box so-to-speak) things become clearer. Prayer goes hand in hand with reading of his word Thus establishing faith and trust. Can we seriously have any relationship without believing in and conversing with whomever we're relating with? lol.. Think about it??? To take a step of FAITH is the first step( reading of the WORD and allowing the possibility of it's TRUTH)= BELIEVE(to gain trust through what you've read) PRAYER (even when you're questioning it's TRUTH) in faith!

now, to answer your question "what does it mean to live with Jesus by my side"?... It means to have FAITH of his existance, Believe (from his WORD) PRAYER(now you've established faith &belief) and finally, KNOWING that he is REAL!!! To have a REAL relationship with the creator of all life. Talking with him, abiding in him, believing in his promises and leaning on him for EVERYTHING. When we begin to understand all of this, it is then that we truly realize, that HE was with us ALL ALONG, which is why WE questioned it to begin with ;) HE loves US FIRST, he searches US out FIRST! HE tugs at our hearts and our souls with these sorts of quest ions... This will become clear as you go along!
I'm going to recite something I heard long ago, I'm sure you've heard it all before. My heart lies upon this TRUTH, whether we all our wrong or not.

"I'd rather live as if there were a God, to find out in the end there is NOT, than to live as if there weren't a God and than in the end find out there IS"!!!

It's FAITH!!!
And YES, He has spoken directly to me! Not some audible voice shouting down to me from "heaven", but a small still voice(which is also mentioned in the Bible) SOME may say it could have been my own 'thoughts", but I have FAITH believing it was divine. Nothing in this world could have made me feel so ALIVE, WARM and COMFORTED.. Again, IT'S FAITH!

God bless YOU Doogie! You're doing GREAT!
Robin
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