New at Program & Questioning Relationship with God

The spiritual response to anxiety and depression
Rhonda M.
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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:48 pm

Post by Rhonda M. » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:47 pm

Hi,
I just started the program on Monday and am trying to devote time to it every evening. I have had anxiety problems for about 10 years now although haven't been been bothered over the last few until about 2 months ago. I have a busy schedule with 2 very busy teenagers who keep me going. I have general anxiety but mostly suffer from panic attacks when at work. I am currently on Buspar and Xanax as needed though haven't taken the Xanax for 5 days in a row now!!! I struggle with the amount of $$$ the program costs. I also struggle with the fact that I am a Christian who is feeling like my relationship with God should be enough to get me through this. Since this isn't a "Christian based" program I am wondering if it is for me. Has anyone else had these feelings? The feeling like your relationship with God isn't where it should be or you wouldn't have this problem? I would love to hear from others who have had these same issues. Thanks - I'm very new to this internet "thing" - I've never done anything like this before. I'm willing to try anything to just feel better and feel like a more present mother & wife.

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:03 am

I am also a Christian, and love the Lord with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. I think God allowed me to have this program. I think of it as a gift from Him, since, I was agoraphobic, and lived in a constant state of panic!!!!

I look at the program, as a gift from God, since, it was a life-saver!!! God Bless!!!

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:41 am

Hi,

My opinion is that having a good relationship with God helps you with any condition you are facing, including anxiety. That being said, if we get migraines from stress, most of us don't automatically say that if our relationship with God was better that we wouldn't get them in the first place or that we don't need to take actions to heal including diet, medication, migraine relief techniques, etc.

I guess what I am trying to say is try not to look at doing this program as an either or situation. If you feel your relationship with God isn't what it should be, you can take steps to work on that and combine it with this program and what methods work to relieve your anxiety. This program does have a spiritual component.

I will say that although I try not to "grade" my relationship with God, changing my erroneous perception of God from thinking He was a strict God who was out to get me and punishing me with anxiety to learning that He was a God of love and compassion and mercy and trust worthy did dramatically help me. In fact, I found out that when I was at my worst with anxiety that He was the only one that loved me at my weakest, had compassion for me, and didn't abandon me. Knowing and seeing that He was my main supporter did help me utilize the techniques from this program and some other healing sources to get well.Just in case you feel the same way, I just want to say that God has not abandoned you because you have anxiety, He's not giving you anxiety because your relationship with Him isn't what you think it should be, and He is your greatest cheerleader and guiding with you love. Perhaps, as Ms. T Bones pointed out, He has guided you to this program.

As far as affordability is concerned, just look at all of your options. I got this program for 100.00 off of ebay in tape format in 2005, and I knew right away that it was one of God's ways of helping me heal from anxiety.

God bless you,
luvpiggy

MaryKaylady
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Post by MaryKaylady » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:48 am

Yes I have been feeling that way I am on session 2 and have already thought about sending the program back because I am a christian and thought my relationship with God should be enough. I have felt guilty. The night before I got a call about this program I was praying and asking God for an answer about how to move on in my life and get closer to him. I have to believe this was an answer. God understands our needs. Seek God as you are doing the program and he will guide you. Keep up the faith. Roberta, Oh yeh Just wanted to say to Ms. T Bones I love what your posts are very inspiring. Thanks

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Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:06 am

Hey Rhonda,
I know how you feel about the money and wondering if you should return it. I felt the same way. For myself it has truly changed my life and how I see things now. I know it's hard to put your trust in something that is on an info-mercial. I believe her commercial is one of the longest running, if I'm not mistaken. She has helped millions of people with this program.
I am also a christian and when I read her testimonial on this web-site and she talked about God. I knew I had to step out in faith and get it.
The farther you go in the program. The more she does talk about her belief in God.
She also has a minister on(I think) 2 of the tapes. That helped me alot because my husband is a preacher as well.
I also felt like my relationship with God SHOULD be enough. Especially being a preacher's wife!! (you will learn about "shoulds" later on in a session) ;).
We are taught to be selfless(christian). So you may feel a little selfish at first(I know I did). For myself I had to realize that for me to be the best Christian I could be. I needed... and still do need... the program to help guide me.
I beleive God puts things in our lives to help us. I truly believe this is one of those things.
I pray that God will give you desernment(mispelled?) over this.
Take care and God bless :)
Last edited by karenLeigh on Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:36 am

hi,
as fas as sending the program back I would tell you that you should keep it. the program and the tools that you get out of it will help you go on your own journey.many of us have had to worst of times in the past and had it not been the program and with Gods help we would not be here today sharing our story.so go for it and you will look back and thank those of us who said keep it. take care and know that you are in our thoughts and prayers and God Bless.
don
p.s. if you get a chance read my profile and you will see where I came from and where I am now.

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:28 am

There are also used to be a Christian workbook that went along with the program that was co-written by a pastor and his wife. I don't know if it is still available, but you should be able to see if it is on this website. I think it cost $20.00. It comes in a binder. The authors use scripture and lessons to support each week of the program. I ordered it when I was completing the program so I didn't end up using it because I already felt so much better and saw how this program fit in, but maybe it could help you if you are a Christian.

Take care,
luvpiggy

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:29 am

Thank you all so much for your insight. :)

I do think I am going to keep the program. I already feel better knowing that there are so many people out there facing the same issues I am and it is wonderful knowing that there is such a support network of people willing to listen and take the time to respond. I live in a small town and don't know a single other person that has this issue. My family has been wonderful but I have no one to talk to who truly understands. I'm sure there are other people around me that have anxiety but it feels like it's such a stigma and it has to be kept a secret. Especially due to my job.

The funny thing about the program and how God works is that I heard the ad on the radio at work about a month ago, wrote down the phone # and threw it away when I got home. About a week later, I heard it again, wrote down the # again, but this time I called when i got home. Since receiving the program I haven't heard the ad. Funny how God works and puts things in your path.

Thank you all again.......God's Blessings.

Guest

Post by Guest » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:40 pm

Dearest Ronda,
God knows exactly what He is doing, and He is sooo merciful, loving, and kind. He wants the very best for His children. He will always be there for His own...

When I think of my Heavenly Father, I think of a being who is soooo bright because He is soooo full of love...

Someone who knows all of our fears, heartaches, and pains, and who never-ever leaves us or forsakes us.

Someone who is soooo mighty and strong, that there is nothing in this world he can not do!!!!

It is like I can almost see those eyes sooo full of love and compassion, for you and me...

May God Richly Bless You Is My Prayer!!!

Guest

Post by Guest » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:13 am

Dear Rhonda,

I see that you have decided to keep the program - which I think was a good decision, especially the way you describe your situation, with a very small support network where you live.

When I first read your post, though, I had some immediate thoughts about your question... When you buy groceries, I would guess that you don't really know a lot about the store owner's religious convictions, or for that matter the board members of Kraft's or Proctor & Gamble's religious views...? ;) You probably still buy their products and eat the food, and they make you and your family full and keep your house and laundry clean.

I do understand where you are coming from, though, because I believe in consumer power and that by carefully choosing what we buy we can influence the ethics of businesses - I buy organic and fair trade products because pollution and economic inequality/poverty concerns me. But it's hard to get everything you need according to such strict guidelines.

Also wanted to share that when I first read about the program, I was actually a little turned off by the reference to prayer, because I am not involved in organized religion and thought, "Oh, here we go - the Lord is going to save you. Well, what are we supposed to do who can't go with that solution?" I still got the program, because it's based on science and hard work, and that I can relate to.

I'm not sure how to phrase my last thought without offending you... but please understand that I am genuine when I ask - how come that you can not share your problem and have to keep it secret? It is my understanding that a Christian fellowship is supposed to be loving, understanding and supportive... If I was a member of a religious group, I would expect them to be the first people I could go to if I was facing hardship and challenges?

I ask because I know from experience that keeping anxiety and panic a secret makes it worse. It adds to the problem. If you tell the person you are with that you are feeling bad and it is because you are having an anxiety attack, a lot of the anxiety will dissolve simply because you get rid of the part that is about fearing the reaction or losing control in front of someone who doesn't know, or even the fear of scaring them. Having someone at work who knows, will help you feel much better immediately - it's like a lifeline. I would hope there is someone you could consider talking to, I am convinced that it would really help you feel better immediately.

Take care,
Arwen

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