MC Grace: My panic attacks destroyed my belief in God

Don57 · Post by **Don57** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:11 pm

I decided to delete my posts. I wasn't trying to be difficult, but wanted to throw some things out. I can understand your disappointment with praying. I've had similar difficulty in the last seven years. I'm trying to be sensitive here and show respect so I decided to delete the posts. They were apparently interpreted as being defensive and I was just trying to shed more light on evolution and how it's not all it's cracked up to be either, for me anyway. I think scientists have jumped the gun and "taken matters into their own hands". lol

I have picked up from your posts that you seem to be a nice person and sensitive to others, doogiet. You have some very good qualities. Just want you to know I accept you for who you are. Hope you're doing okay today and continuing to work with the progam.

Ben22 · Post by **Ben22** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:51 am

Hello Doogiet,

I myself adhere to a belief in God, but I most certainly am not upset with you for stating your opinion. I can understand why many people struggle with the ideas of God, eternal love, heaven, hell, it's complex stuff and it cannot be proven empirically; it is a matter of faith. I have struggled with anxiety, depression, extremely low self-esteem for as long as I can remember. There have been many times in my life where I have wandered away from God and instead used drugs and alcohol to camoplaugh my "emptiness". Recently, I myself have really been struggling in my faith as a result of being exposed to challenging ideas in astronomy. I pray that God will give me the strengh to work through these doubts.

Kind regards to everyone,

Benjamin Olthof

DEB EMENHISER · Post by **DEB EMENHISER** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:08 am

I WAS GIVEN A SCRIPTURE BY GOD WHEN I HAD SOME DOUBTS. IT'S IN LUKE 7 ABOUT THE 18TH VERSE. IN MY BIBLE THE HEADING IS "JESUS EASES JOHN'S DOUBTS". WHEN JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS IN PRISON HE SENT 2 MESSENGERS TO JESUS TO ASK "ARE YOU THE ONE WE WERE TO EXPECT OR WILL THERE BE ANOTHER'. EVEN JOHN THE BAPTIST WHO TOLD EVERYONE HOW WE WOULD RECOGNIZE JESUS [HE WOULD OPEN THE EYES OF THE BLIND, HEAL THE LAME, PREACH THE GOOD NEWS TO THE POOR, ETC]HE EVEN HAD DOUBTS WHILE HE WAS IN A DARK PLACE. FOR HIM IT WAS PRISON. FOR US IT IS ANXIETY. DEB

Mom of 6 · Post by **Mom of 6** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:48 am

Hello Everyone! I love these types of threads

If gives us the opportunity to share our own experiences with questioning our faith and confidence in God. afterall, that is why were here right? But I must say, at some point in our lives, WE'VE ALL stopped "believing" in something! Whether it be God,faith, family, love, self love, etc. That's what brought us all to this anxious/depressed point in our lives. If I had STRONG faith that comes from God and ONLY GOD, in the beginning, I would not have had succombed(SP?) to this. And that's why I became a member of this forum. Whether or not Doogiet believes in God (right now) doesn't matter, GOD BELIEVES IN HIM!!! And you're right, this forum was not created by accident, nor did we just stubbled upon it...it is divine intervention!

For any of you that haven't finished the program, or are just starting, please bare with me while I remind/refresh ones that have finished or are nearing the end of the program.
GOD DID NOT DO THIS TO US, WE DID IT TO OURSELVES!!! it's NOBODY'S FAULT BUT OUR OWN!!! When we take that responsibility and own it, that is when it all starts to make sense. As I approached the end of the program, I began to see the TRUTH about MYSELF. It was saddening to realize that I WAS doing this! I was self loathing, critical, impatient, self seeking...me me me!! It was ALL ABOUT ME! Yes, life handed me some rotten stuff, but when I realized that I HAVE THE CHOICE ON HOW I WILL RESPOND, THE ANXIETY FLED! IT HAD NO CHOICE! GODs healing came when I admitted my short comings..he made me face my own demons.. GOD DIDN'T MAKE ME THIS WAY, LIFE DIDN'T MAKE ME THIS WAY, PEOPLE IN MY PAST DIDN'T MAKE ME THIS WAY....I DID IT TO MYSELF! I CREATED MY OWN HELL!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry if this comes off too strong for some of you, but it's the TRUTH! Lucinda says it time and time again(without being so harsh)

I'm sorry to hear that DoogieT is at this point of anxiety and depression...but obviously he hasn't given up on getting help for it! One step/day at a time my friend...it will get easier...and YES, GOD LOVES you whether or not you feel the same for him. I'm excited to hear about your accomplishments as you go along here. PM me ANYTIME!

God bless you all
Robin

doogiet · Post by **doogiet** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:18 am

There's so much support on this website, even for an atheist like me.

I still will never believe in God, but you have no idea how much I appreciate all your help and support.

Thanks, Mom of Six.

Posa · Post by **Posa** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:36 pm

No problem Doog. This is good to talk about. If it helps anyone I'm for it. I do believe in God but have been mad for the same reasons you stated. I just want to let you know we are here for you whether or not you are a believer. We are all in this together and we all Love you! Let's get better...

BookOfPsalms · Post by **BookOfPsalms** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:16 am

WOOOOWWWW!!! All I can say right now is that I agree totally with SusantheChatterbox (cute name). SATAN HIMSELF is totally responsible for the way you feel. You can't pray for good things to come, or to see good things happen. God is all sufficient, all knowing. He is not a God that has to be threatened or prayed to whenever you feel that things are going your way, and when you have a downfall or setback, or panic attack then you get angry with God. I am not posting this reply to upset anyone either, but this post did catch my attention because it saddens me to know hear people that once trusted God just get so much anger from things not going the way that they feel that it should and lose faith in God. I read that you said Lucinda Bassett, exercise, medicine etc is all we need, but if it were not for God we would not have any of those things. Lucinda would not be here, nor would she have gone through the experience herself to be able to help us to get better. God did it ALL!
God hung on the cross for us and he died for our sins, and by God's stripes we are healed. God has us here for a reason, and has us going through this for a purpose. It will only make us stronger and we will personally know that God is a healer, and that God is REAL! I am praying that you will be touched and that you will have perfect peace that surpasseth all understanding. Just know that GOD IS!
Prayerfully,
BookOfPsalms

r.michelle · Post by **r.michelle** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:51 pm

Hey, I have so many things I would like to say but I will stay simple. "Tell the truth ALL the time, your only as good as your word"....I admire your honesty. I have also found that a lot of my stuff (which is a lot)is from my past and lies I have told...my disappointment in myself, not GOD. I encourage you to keep posting and maybe something will change your mind about GOD is my hope...but either way the truth and honesty I have seen in the posts I have read has really helped me be honest with myself and others...Good Luck