Hi its a long time i havn't share my thoughts not that i dont come on but every i make an attempt i just freak out and close off my computer .i know that's not facing my fears .but i back out sometimes .i like how you can come on this program and say how yuo feel without any putting you down for it ..
For the past few weeks i was just up and down in the holes feelings going and coming ..the last program on anger didn't appeal to much to me cause i dont really go through much of that
what am struggling with is that i can't seems to get past my failures.every i try to pray my mind keep going back on those times just before i first had an attack .. and keep asking myself if it was something i said or do ? i know i did sin .cause every one of us sin at times .but i feel like i have done something so bad and that God is angry with me .i keep telling myself maybe i should of be more obedience or should of pray more or this or that ..
sometimes i feel like my days are past and i can't see my way out ..you know when you are going through things and you can know that God will come through for you..and that you dont have to worry about it .i worry meself because at times its like am getting nowhere in my prayer .i feel lifeless at times , i know that i have come a long way looking back on what i use to go through it is much better ...but i still have trouble feeling distance from God ;
monday before i go to work i put on my tv and a gospel program was on and the preacher was saying at the same moment i turn it on that every time we have make a choice to not obey God we are telling him that we dont love him .and for the rest of the day i was feeling miserable 'and telling myself i didn't love God thats why i make so much wrong choices 'it was not until late in the evening i start to get over it ;i know i beat myself up with guilt but when it start i can't get my mind calm until that calm by itsself then i will feel good and normal again '
but i still holding to God for his deliverance..
Feel like i'm gettig nowhere
I see that you do have the program....Praise God many are not able! Now what session are you on? I ask because in Session 2 or 3 really shows us that we have to forgive and love our selves...sounds like your having hard time with that.....God does do work, but he requires us to do our part of the work as well. We dig our own holes. But praise the Lord his mercies are new every morning......and he does deliver us. Join in more on the forums.......You know the bible does say...pray and help one another that you may be delivered. When you help someone else God always lifts you up in return and guides you back to a path of his destiny for you.
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sistered,
if you could would you please join us in the prayer group wednesdaynight at 10 p.m. its a conferance call and its free. we pray for each other and share things that we are going through and you can go and read some of them and see for yourself..remember that the devil is out to see who he may devior..YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD..nothing is ging to hurt you...i find that if i want something i plant a seed and watch it grow and the harvest is something that is not money but loved ones that get better or someon that i can reach out and touch them in some way..our CHURCH went on a 21 day fast and we went on a danile fast...it was such a blessing..somtime i suggest that you try to di it even if it is for one meal..you will be amazed at how much it helps and even gives you strength..take care and know you are loved and be blessed and remember also..YOU ARE SOMEBODY GOING SOMEWHERE...GOD BLESS..
DON
if you could would you please join us in the prayer group wednesdaynight at 10 p.m. its a conferance call and its free. we pray for each other and share things that we are going through and you can go and read some of them and see for yourself..remember that the devil is out to see who he may devior..YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD..nothing is ging to hurt you...i find that if i want something i plant a seed and watch it grow and the harvest is something that is not money but loved ones that get better or someon that i can reach out and touch them in some way..our CHURCH went on a 21 day fast and we went on a danile fast...it was such a blessing..somtime i suggest that you try to di it even if it is for one meal..you will be amazed at how much it helps and even gives you strength..take care and know you are loved and be blessed and remember also..YOU ARE SOMEBODY GOING SOMEWHERE...GOD BLESS..
DON
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sisterd,
I use to have a hard time praying as well. It's like satan was making me think of all the past things that I had done in my life and then I wouldn't ever get a prayer out. I have been there before I know how aggravated you are right now. There is nothing that God can not take us through! Some of your thoughts could be that you need to get back in your word and it is the Holy Spirit telling you that you need to get in the word more. I have been there as well. I joined the prayer group and I haven't stopped praying for people and talking on here to try to give advise. I love knowing there are people here that will listen to me and instead of judging you will pray for you and with you. Here is a prayer for you...
Lord Jesus, please give sisterd a sound mind, please bind the things that are causing her to not be able to pray and keep her from wondering in her mind back to the things that are causeing the problems. Please allow her to forgive herself for all that she has done and help her move forward and stop looking back. Lord Jesus help her with her anxiety and heal her in every area of her life that she needs healed and deliver her from all the things that she needs delivered from. Lord Jesus please put a hedge of thorns around her and keep anything from entering into her mind that you are not putting there for her. Lord Jesus I thank you for these things being done. In your name Jesus. Amen!
You can make it through all of this I did and I have only been moving forward. I thought that I was never going to get any better and if you read some of the forums that I have posted I have made it a long way from where I was. And I thank the Lord because I know that he healed me and delivered me out of each thing in my life that needed it. God bless you and we would love you to join our prayer group.
Jennifier
I use to have a hard time praying as well. It's like satan was making me think of all the past things that I had done in my life and then I wouldn't ever get a prayer out. I have been there before I know how aggravated you are right now. There is nothing that God can not take us through! Some of your thoughts could be that you need to get back in your word and it is the Holy Spirit telling you that you need to get in the word more. I have been there as well. I joined the prayer group and I haven't stopped praying for people and talking on here to try to give advise. I love knowing there are people here that will listen to me and instead of judging you will pray for you and with you. Here is a prayer for you...
Lord Jesus, please give sisterd a sound mind, please bind the things that are causing her to not be able to pray and keep her from wondering in her mind back to the things that are causeing the problems. Please allow her to forgive herself for all that she has done and help her move forward and stop looking back. Lord Jesus help her with her anxiety and heal her in every area of her life that she needs healed and deliver her from all the things that she needs delivered from. Lord Jesus please put a hedge of thorns around her and keep anything from entering into her mind that you are not putting there for her. Lord Jesus I thank you for these things being done. In your name Jesus. Amen!
You can make it through all of this I did and I have only been moving forward. I thought that I was never going to get any better and if you read some of the forums that I have posted I have made it a long way from where I was. And I thank the Lord because I know that he healed me and delivered me out of each thing in my life that needed it. God bless you and we would love you to join our prayer group.
Jennifier
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I feel for you and I too often feel 'distanced' from God. Please know that if you disobey that it doesn't mean that you do not love God!! just because our children disobey doesn't mean that they don't love us!! Look at Peter! He denyed Jesus 3 times! He was a close friend of Jesus', a disciple! He loved Jesus very much!
I've also seen pastors on TV who make me feel more afraid of God as well. I've decided to read the Bible instead.
take care and know that you are not alone. God loves you and is not angry with you.
I've also seen pastors on TV who make me feel more afraid of God as well. I've decided to read the Bible instead.
take care and know that you are not alone. God loves you and is not angry with you.
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Lately,
People have mentioned the book "Toxic Faith" which may be helpful for you. You are not being punished by God with anxiety. "Perfect Love casts out fear; for fear is of punishment and not of love." Look at all the nice wonderful people on here who have anxiety. The last thing that's happening is that they are being punished by God for disobedience. It's God's perfect love for us that will ease our fear. There are many preachers out there for many different personalities. Some use fear to motivate their audiences, and I am just learning to be very careful in asking God for discernment in that area. You need to hear about God's love for you, and not punishment. If God asks you to do anything, it's going to be loving, and it's going to be because He loves you and wants what is best for you and others. In addition, God is a God of free will. It really helped me in my relationship with God and to follow God when I read in Joyce Meyer's work that said the "Holy Spirit leads and doesn't force." This means that when I am trying to make a decision, and if I feel trapped and forced, it's not really from God. God is gentle and loving when He speaks. There are so many passages in the Bible where God actually says that He would rather you not do something if you aren't going to do it for the right reasons. Your motivations of love and freedom and not fear are what He desires. His greatest desire is that we love Him, and He wants what we do to come from that love whether it's obeying him or giving to others, etc. If you have a misperception of God as a punishing God, then why would you trust Him or be happy following Him. God will help you change your perception by placing loving people in your life, and good sound books or sources for a more accurate view of Him. Then it will take some time for that to translate to your heart, but it will happen.
Finally, this is something I've been trying to articulate on here, and I hope it comes across the right way. Whether you have anxiety or not, God loves you. He is patient. He looks at your heart, and not your level of anxiety or functioning. Ofcourse, everyone on here wants to be healed of anxiety, and we all have to take some steps with doing this program and other means to get better. We reach up as far as we can, which may be different for different people on this board, and God will reach down the rest. At the same time, when you are taking steps to heal, God does not base His love for you on what you can or can not do. He loves you just the same whether you have agoraphobia and can't leave the house, or whether you can fly all over the world by yourself:)! It's amazing:)! I realized that, and it has just helped me so much. It's good if I can drive by myself, because God doesn't want me to suffer from fear. However, if when I go to practice driving, and I can't do it I say "God I need to drive so you will love me or love me more or I will be a valuable person" that's going to put so much pressure on me, and make me beat myself up for my "failure", and I'm not going to do as well because it's not true. If when I go to take steps to help my anxiety, and I know that God already loves me as much as He's ever going to love me, and He already works through me and uses me even in my anxiety or any other weakened state, it takes so much pressure off of me, and I am more likely to be successful. Starting the healing process from a place of love is so great and calming and just wonderful.
I am also reading the book by Henry Cloud "Changes that Heal: How to Understand Your Past to Ensure a Healthier Future" which is really loving and helpful and maybe that will help you.
I've used this quote a lot from "Quiet Times for Women" that's a lesson dealing with our limitations. It uses the verse where God says when we are weak, He is strong. I love this quote from page 66. "Know who you are and accept yourself. Don't covet someone else's abilities, but recognize your own assets and use them. Also accept your limitations. God doesn't ask you to account for what you don't have. Isn't that a relief? The Lord puts less pressure on us than anyone in the world, because He knows us as we really are. He knows our motives. He also knows our physical limitations and strength."
I hope something in here helped:).
God Bless You,
luvpiggy
Right now, you have a perception of a punishing God, and there are preachers everywhere who will say God is that way. At the same time, there are other preachers, Christian authors, etc. who use scripture to show the love of God. I listen to Christian radio all day long, and on the same day, I may hear a preacher that says something I don't agree with, and then I may hear someone who says something that lines up with what I have gotten from God on my own. Just because someone's on the t.v. or radio doesn't mean their sermon is perfect and beyond questioning or that they have the right motivations for their sermon, etc. God will give you wisdom and discernment, and most people with anxiety I know want to be obedient and are. When God gives you opportunities to see His love and grace and not punishment, you will eventually realize that you are obedient to a loving God.
People have mentioned the book "Toxic Faith" which may be helpful for you. You are not being punished by God with anxiety. "Perfect Love casts out fear; for fear is of punishment and not of love." Look at all the nice wonderful people on here who have anxiety. The last thing that's happening is that they are being punished by God for disobedience. It's God's perfect love for us that will ease our fear. There are many preachers out there for many different personalities. Some use fear to motivate their audiences, and I am just learning to be very careful in asking God for discernment in that area. You need to hear about God's love for you, and not punishment. If God asks you to do anything, it's going to be loving, and it's going to be because He loves you and wants what is best for you and others. In addition, God is a God of free will. It really helped me in my relationship with God and to follow God when I read in Joyce Meyer's work that said the "Holy Spirit leads and doesn't force." This means that when I am trying to make a decision, and if I feel trapped and forced, it's not really from God. God is gentle and loving when He speaks. There are so many passages in the Bible where God actually says that He would rather you not do something if you aren't going to do it for the right reasons. Your motivations of love and freedom and not fear are what He desires. His greatest desire is that we love Him, and He wants what we do to come from that love whether it's obeying him or giving to others, etc. If you have a misperception of God as a punishing God, then why would you trust Him or be happy following Him. God will help you change your perception by placing loving people in your life, and good sound books or sources for a more accurate view of Him. Then it will take some time for that to translate to your heart, but it will happen.
Finally, this is something I've been trying to articulate on here, and I hope it comes across the right way. Whether you have anxiety or not, God loves you. He is patient. He looks at your heart, and not your level of anxiety or functioning. Ofcourse, everyone on here wants to be healed of anxiety, and we all have to take some steps with doing this program and other means to get better. We reach up as far as we can, which may be different for different people on this board, and God will reach down the rest. At the same time, when you are taking steps to heal, God does not base His love for you on what you can or can not do. He loves you just the same whether you have agoraphobia and can't leave the house, or whether you can fly all over the world by yourself:)! It's amazing:)! I realized that, and it has just helped me so much. It's good if I can drive by myself, because God doesn't want me to suffer from fear. However, if when I go to practice driving, and I can't do it I say "God I need to drive so you will love me or love me more or I will be a valuable person" that's going to put so much pressure on me, and make me beat myself up for my "failure", and I'm not going to do as well because it's not true. If when I go to take steps to help my anxiety, and I know that God already loves me as much as He's ever going to love me, and He already works through me and uses me even in my anxiety or any other weakened state, it takes so much pressure off of me, and I am more likely to be successful. Starting the healing process from a place of love is so great and calming and just wonderful.
I am also reading the book by Henry Cloud "Changes that Heal: How to Understand Your Past to Ensure a Healthier Future" which is really loving and helpful and maybe that will help you.
I've used this quote a lot from "Quiet Times for Women" that's a lesson dealing with our limitations. It uses the verse where God says when we are weak, He is strong. I love this quote from page 66. "Know who you are and accept yourself. Don't covet someone else's abilities, but recognize your own assets and use them. Also accept your limitations. God doesn't ask you to account for what you don't have. Isn't that a relief? The Lord puts less pressure on us than anyone in the world, because He knows us as we really are. He knows our motives. He also knows our physical limitations and strength."
I hope something in here helped:).
God Bless You,
luvpiggy
Right now, you have a perception of a punishing God, and there are preachers everywhere who will say God is that way. At the same time, there are other preachers, Christian authors, etc. who use scripture to show the love of God. I listen to Christian radio all day long, and on the same day, I may hear a preacher that says something I don't agree with, and then I may hear someone who says something that lines up with what I have gotten from God on my own. Just because someone's on the t.v. or radio doesn't mean their sermon is perfect and beyond questioning or that they have the right motivations for their sermon, etc. God will give you wisdom and discernment, and most people with anxiety I know want to be obedient and are. When God gives you opportunities to see His love and grace and not punishment, you will eventually realize that you are obedient to a loving God.
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thanks Don for your word of encouragement and i will get the informination on the prayer night program , i will like to be apart of it .these days i find myself staying away from any thing although i know i should be involve .i stay away i know its the enemy wants to keeps me shut up ,but with every one here to help me i can make itOriginally posted by *D*:
sistered,
if you could would you please join us in the prayer group wednesdaynight at 10 p.m. its a conferance call and its free. we pray for each other and share things that we are going through and you can go and read some of them and see for yourself..remember that the devil is out to see who he may devior..YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD..nothing is ging to hurt you...i find that if i want something i plant a seed and watch it grow and the harvest is something that is not money but loved ones that get better or someon that i can reach out and touch them in some way..our CHURCH went on a 21 day fast and we went on a danile fast...it was such a blessing..somtime i suggest that you try to di it even if it is for one meal..you will be amazed at how much it helps and even gives you strength..take care and know you are loved and be blessed and remember also..YOU ARE SOMEBODY GOING SOMEWHERE...GOD BLESS..
DON
Delores
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