I was curious to know if any other members here have suffered with PTSD= Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Its symptons are all High Anxiety/Panic when triggered. A disorder which puts the body in a fight or flight response when majorly triggered and how does one turn that response off!! Which perhaps is the strongest session on this program that can address that. Normally when a trigger is set off its really a normal and valid anxiety/panic for a moment not for days. Any suggestons advice would be helpful. I have not seen this topic yet.
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PTSD/Fight or Flight/Anxiety/Panic
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Believer08
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Believer,
I have heard of it and I think that is what started my anxiety. I got married and then three weeks after our honeymoon I was really sick with Hepititis from Mexico. I then started having anxiety and panic. I don't know much about the PTSD but I do know it is a real thing and I think I have it. If you get anymore info about it let me know. I will try to dig some up as well.
Ashley
I have heard of it and I think that is what started my anxiety. I got married and then three weeks after our honeymoon I was really sick with Hepititis from Mexico. I then started having anxiety and panic. I don't know much about the PTSD but I do know it is a real thing and I think I have it. If you get anymore info about it let me know. I will try to dig some up as well.
Ashley
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Your right its something very real. A terrible experience someone encountered and has not addressed yet. What I have learned from it that it tends to be the root cause of alot of anxiety/panic the flight or fight response. If the root of something isn't healed or dealt with many of the symptons of it continue. Thank you Ashlynn I pray that more members will be able to respond...
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Dear BELIEVER08"
I was officially diagnosed by a psychiatrist w/ PTSD fr 3 diff things: surgery I had for the 1st time that TRIGGERED my anxiety disorder + 9/11(I was there) + my childhood/teenage years. I started therapy/initiated it immediately after anxiety disorder triggered & I experienced the first signs & PYSICAL SYMPTOMS of anxiety disorder. I had never experienced any physical symptoms prior. It was during my initial evaluation(made up of apprx 3-4 sessions) that PTSD was a part of my total diagnosis.
I don't know if you were officially evaluated/diagnosed - but I would recommend you get an official diagnosis fr a medical prof(therapist/psychiatrist/psychologist) to ease your mind/worry & set about the steps necessary for you to help yourself. Yes, this program is BEYOND PHENOMINAL in terms of its role in my recovery fr anxiety disorder - w/o a doubt(ty Lucinda)
However, I had issues that reached beyond the scopes of this program. Issues very in depth & traumatic - ones this program are not equiped to address in & of itself. What does that all mean? lol, it simply means I needed professional help - it mean b/4 I was even ready to face/address/change myself - I had to face my past & all that which was @ the core of my anxiety disorder = ALL SURPRESSED PAIN/FEAR/EMOTIONS.
In my experience, the only way & most EFFICIENT way to overcome PTSD is to FACE THE FEARS/EXPERIENCES - LITERALLY, under medical/professional supervision = UNDER A CONTROL ENVIRONMENT. Meaning, a professional guides you gentley/delicately through these events - so you can face them a little @ a time - while you know YOU ARE NOT ALONE as you face them. A medical professional is VERY NEEDED w/ PTSD, esp in extreme cases, because if not done correctly - your emotional self can get overloaded & this will not bring you to overcoming it - but set you back.
You can overcome PTSD - I did! 
No, you don't erase the events fr memory. Nor can you erase them fr existence - can't do that: can't change what has already taken place. What you can do is take back control & the power these events & the PTSD has over you - simply by facing & feeling them = acknowledging they did happen - feeling the respective emotions - for then, it loses its power over you - cause you felt it already. The hardest part is acknowledging/facing/feeling/dealing these things. No, its not easy. I don't say this to frighten you sweetie. Rather, I say this to EMPOWER you. You know how in the program Lucinda says "stop running, you've been running all your life" - thats exactly it - as long as you run fr any & all things behind your PTSD - these things will haunt you for the rest of your days here on earth till the good lord God calls you home. Now, you don't want to live like that & trust you me, God doesn't want you to live like that either. For once you face them all & feel them, you literally feel lighter - almost like this heavy burden as been lifted off your shoulders(this is how I felt) & you honestly feel FREE. <span class="ev_code_RED">In as much honesty & sincerity as I can possibly convey to you: I am 39 yrs old & prior to therapy initated in May-2005, I carried these traumas around for 30+ yrs - can you imagine the burdens of doing such a thing. It is much harder to carry these fears - never having faced them - than to face them DEAD ON & SAY "YOU WILL NOT HOLD ME PRISONER ANY MORE - I CLAIM ME BACK & I AM A CHILD OF GOD & HE LOVES ME" lol(thats another thing I said, haha). I am not lying - carrying these things for 30+ yrs hurt me more than what it took in 3 yrs of intensive therapy to face them. Was the process hard - yes, w/o a single doubt. However long it took me & whatever it did entail, was that 3 yrs any harder than carrying them for 30+ yrs? Think about it.</span>
I don't know you or your exact background. Then again, I don't really need to - because the point is still the same: allowing the fears & events behind your PTSD is much harder on YOU LONG TERM than never having faced them @ all.
Here's to you TAKING BACK THE POWER - all the best to continued recovery.
LENORE
I was officially diagnosed by a psychiatrist w/ PTSD fr 3 diff things: surgery I had for the 1st time that TRIGGERED my anxiety disorder + 9/11(I was there) + my childhood/teenage years. I started therapy/initiated it immediately after anxiety disorder triggered & I experienced the first signs & PYSICAL SYMPTOMS of anxiety disorder. I had never experienced any physical symptoms prior. It was during my initial evaluation(made up of apprx 3-4 sessions) that PTSD was a part of my total diagnosis.
I don't know if you were officially evaluated/diagnosed - but I would recommend you get an official diagnosis fr a medical prof(therapist/psychiatrist/psychologist) to ease your mind/worry & set about the steps necessary for you to help yourself. Yes, this program is BEYOND PHENOMINAL in terms of its role in my recovery fr anxiety disorder - w/o a doubt(ty Lucinda)
However, I had issues that reached beyond the scopes of this program. Issues very in depth & traumatic - ones this program are not equiped to address in & of itself. What does that all mean? lol, it simply means I needed professional help - it mean b/4 I was even ready to face/address/change myself - I had to face my past & all that which was @ the core of my anxiety disorder = ALL SURPRESSED PAIN/FEAR/EMOTIONS. In my experience, the only way & most EFFICIENT way to overcome PTSD is to FACE THE FEARS/EXPERIENCES - LITERALLY, under medical/professional supervision = UNDER A CONTROL ENVIRONMENT. Meaning, a professional guides you gentley/delicately through these events - so you can face them a little @ a time - while you know YOU ARE NOT ALONE as you face them. A medical professional is VERY NEEDED w/ PTSD, esp in extreme cases, because if not done correctly - your emotional self can get overloaded & this will not bring you to overcoming it - but set you back.
You can overcome PTSD - I did!
No, you don't erase the events fr memory. Nor can you erase them fr existence - can't do that: can't change what has already taken place. What you can do is take back control & the power these events & the PTSD has over you - simply by facing & feeling them = acknowledging they did happen - feeling the respective emotions - for then, it loses its power over you - cause you felt it already. The hardest part is acknowledging/facing/feeling/dealing these things. No, its not easy. I don't say this to frighten you sweetie. Rather, I say this to EMPOWER you. You know how in the program Lucinda says "stop running, you've been running all your life" - thats exactly it - as long as you run fr any & all things behind your PTSD - these things will haunt you for the rest of your days here on earth till the good lord God calls you home. Now, you don't want to live like that & trust you me, God doesn't want you to live like that either. For once you face them all & feel them, you literally feel lighter - almost like this heavy burden as been lifted off your shoulders(this is how I felt) & you honestly feel FREE. <span class="ev_code_RED">In as much honesty & sincerity as I can possibly convey to you: I am 39 yrs old & prior to therapy initated in May-2005, I carried these traumas around for 30+ yrs - can you imagine the burdens of doing such a thing. It is much harder to carry these fears - never having faced them - than to face them DEAD ON & SAY "YOU WILL NOT HOLD ME PRISONER ANY MORE - I CLAIM ME BACK & I AM A CHILD OF GOD & HE LOVES ME" lol(thats another thing I said, haha). I am not lying - carrying these things for 30+ yrs hurt me more than what it took in 3 yrs of intensive therapy to face them. Was the process hard - yes, w/o a single doubt. However long it took me & whatever it did entail, was that 3 yrs any harder than carrying them for 30+ yrs? Think about it.</span>I don't know you or your exact background. Then again, I don't really need to - because the point is still the same: allowing the fears & events behind your PTSD is much harder on YOU LONG TERM than never having faced them @ all.
Here's to you TAKING BACK THE POWER - all the best to continued recovery.
LENORE
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Lenore that is a beautiful testimony! It brought tears of joy to my eyes for you. I am so happy about your new found life.
I have recently discovered there are many people close to me that have been diagnosed with PTSD and I have shared this program with them. I am looking to see how effective this program can be for PTSD. I know its good for the symptons but the actual root is as you said a very delicate area. You know when that fight or flight response gets turned on, its really hard to get it to turn off.....
I have recently discovered there are many people close to me that have been diagnosed with PTSD and I have shared this program with them. I am looking to see how effective this program can be for PTSD. I know its good for the symptons but the actual root is as you said a very delicate area. You know when that fight or flight response gets turned on, its really hard to get it to turn off.....
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Believer that's wonderful what your doing. I know heaven is smiling down upon you. I don't know if this program can fully help one with PTSD but it can help with the symptons of it. I have recognized by reading many post it does appear that many do suffer from PTSD and do not know it. Stay strong in your Faith and know that God has the last word.......
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I have been reading alot of these things. I haven't been diagnost with PTSD but my anxiety began after my granddad died. I had a few tears but never spoke of it to anyone not even my husband. He didn't even know intil recently that my grandad had died since we had been together. I just thought that if I talked about it I would begin crying and I have only a few times began to cry over anything. Well that is since I have been older. I then later had my husbands grandad die that I had been taking care of a few years earlier. I then had a friend from school that his dad died in 06 that I was close to and he was fine one day and then was in the hospital in comman. I never spoke anything about any of it. I have had lots of deaths in my life that were people that I was close to and have never talked about so I can see how someone can have real bad panic or anxiety. My first panic attack lasted for one week and I didn't even get out of bed. I was so scared and then I snapped my self out of it. I also had a stressful boss and it all gathered together so quickly that I couldn't handle it anymore. I was fine for a about a year and then wham, there it was in full motion. I am now having not much anxiety at all (except for at work my first day) that was my doings though so I see why and I began to fight these symptoms off as they came. I didn't make it yesterday but made it today. I never got to full panic and I think I did very well. All that have this condition just know that it is curable and you don't have to have these thoughts at all. God bless all of you!
Jennifier
Jennifier
Thats a wonderful posting and a good example of some PTSD as well, please do not think I am assuming you have that or am I attempting to diagnos that...........Post Traumatic Stress Disorder comes from experiencing something very traumatizing!!! Something that puts one in a fight or flight response. Like some veterans when they here gun fire they kind of freak out...basically they have a panic/anxiety attack. They didn't have it at the time of the incident....thats why they call it POST....it all happens later somewhere down the line...especially when a major trigger or resemblence of the original situation occured. I see that pattern very much on many post here. Most are just trying to figure out how to deal with anxiety and panic when alot of times its alot deeper and more sensitive area then that. Thank you again Jennifier for your wonderful post and yes God can heal anyone...One just has to believe and walk in Faith....its not easy....no one said it was...
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