ocd thoughts ra escaring the crap out of me!

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BeatAnxiety07
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Post by BeatAnxiety07 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:57 pm

Originally posted by godsbabygirl:
why is it that everyone on here seems to obsess about health? my obsessions are never about health, but more of what i watch on the news and stuff. if i see a serial killer i will obsess that i am one or become one. my biggest fear right now is becoming a pedafile. it scares the crap out of me just to write that word. im 22/f and dont understand why this is happening. does anyone else have these fears? its gotten to the point where i avoid kids, wont go near them, cant babysit anymore, defently wont change diapers anymore. i never had these thoughts until watching the news and hearing about a guy that kept having sexual thoughts about kids so then he went to a school and killed all the kids. then i started worrying that i would have sexual thoughts about kids and then by trying to not have them i started having them. i would run to my bed and cry and have panik attacks. now this is destroying my life. i obsess over wether or not im "one of those sick people". i no i would neevr do that, but theres always the what if i lost control and did? ahhhh, these thoughts drive me insane. am i alone with these thoughts? i didnt even want to post because i dont want anyone to think i really am a sick or bad person, i swear im not! please reply, im freaking out! these thougths have been going on for months ever since watching the news that night!
The more you read on here the more you will see that a number of people on here deal with these same thoughts, whether clearly stated or not.
I will say no more than read these two articles:

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catrisch
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Post by catrisch » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:37 am

Yesterday I felt almost great. Today I woke up and just feel tired, anxious, and negative thoughts keep coming in and out of my mind. Yesterday, I didn't have that problem. Maybe it will get better as the day progresses. How can one day I feel good and the next horrible.

catrisch
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Post by catrisch » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:19 am

okay. it might be getting worse. why is my mind wandering today? it's wandering to thoughts I don't want to think. For instance, I'm at work and all of a sudden I thought, oh my god, i feel so bad, i feel like i am going crazy because this anxiety will never go away and i will end up in an insane asylum. However, the next minute, I could think to myself, i'm okay and be okay.

realtorKaycee
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Post by realtorKaycee » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:13 am

I relate as well, I have thoughts about what if I just drive my car off the road, or just go insane, and that leads to other worries such as what about my kids, next thing I am in a full blown panic, this college shooting crap has me thinking as well. I stopped watching the news and reading about it. I steer clear of anything that has anything bad, like americas most wanted and so forth, it drives me crazy because i feel I am not normal. I have been recieving a lot of emails lately because people feel I am doing so well, and I have helped them, then yesterday I started feeling anxious, driving to my office yesterday i thought about just turning around and going home, but I faced my fears and kept going, then in my day class I started thinking about VA and started getting that feeling of a panic attack coming on, thought about getting the hell out of there, but stayed and calmed myself. Last night in my night class I sat by the door cause this guy freaks me out now cause he is quite and doesnt even like to talk when the teacher ask him something, I found myself watching him all night to make sure he didnt go insane or something...I know shootings are real, but It appeared that noone else was worried, why cant i just relax and be in tuned with my class instead of whats in my mind? I just want to think good, "normal" thoughts.

catrisch
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Post by catrisch » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:17 am

i want to think normal thoughts too! how come one half hour we are okay and the next, we have negative thoughts flying in and out of our mind. Did you ever constantly think about bad thoughts and they make you cry.

bugger
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Post by bugger » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 am

Sometimes I think if I could just shut my brain off and stay in the moment and not think at all I could handle anything.The past and all the nightmares just won't go away! How do you stop it??I finally have a great life with a future to look forward to and dont getit!!Any ideas???

fud233
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Post by fud233 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 am

hey catrisch..
I am the same way with my thoughts. They come so bad at times and I freak out why am I even thinking this for. I finally started taking meds. The thoughts have got a bit better but they still come. I just say to myself they are just thoughts and they are only words. I was sick to my stomach 2weeks ago from my thoughts.
It's such a terrible feeling. i feel like I have to always stayed occupied so the thoughts will not come.

catrisch
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Post by catrisch » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:11 am

I think most of the time it is me making myself tired, nauseous, achy b/c my thoughts have consumed me so much to the point it put me in a panic and my body is so tense. I guess until my body relaxes, I will feel this way day in and day out. Sometimes I just want to sit in a corner and cry. Sometimes I feel I am crazy b/c of what anxiety does to you. I should have my program in the mail today.

marie ann
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Post by marie ann » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:08 am

i think it is tape 8 in the program that deals with these scarey thoughts. i used to have this
now i worry alot and am overcoming it by doing this program again. and also do the relaxation
tape i promise this will help.

WantMyOldSelf
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Post by WantMyOldSelf » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:35 am

Hi guys, I have been dealing with OCD for about two years now and have been feeling great ever since I learned how to cope with those thoughts that just come out of nowhere. Now I am back dealing with GAD over health issues, but these experiences you guys speak of are very familar!

catrish, what you describe is basically called an "intrusive thought." Some people refer to this as a "spike" as well. Meaning, the thought just comes out of nowhere and knocks the wind out of us! Mine often occured when I would be going along just fine, then BAM! A scary obsession would hit me out of nowhere.

This is quoted from an OCD therapist's website. (By the way this same therapist also counseled me on my OCD obsessions):
The "Pure-O" is manifested by a two part process: the originating unwanted thought (spike) and the mental activity which attempts to escape, solve, or undo the spike, called rumination.

For the "Pure-O" sufferer, a tremendous amount of anxiety accompanies the spike, and the mental ritual is an attempt to shut off the anxiety, either by attempting to solve the question or avoid having the thought recur. It is during the rumination phase that the person's mind becomes extremely preoccupied and distracted. Spending eight hours a day with one's thoughts wrapped up with this endless mental escape is not unusual. The emotional pull to undue the thought is tremendous.


The theory behind scary, obsessive thoughts is that the fear-center of our brain is misfiring. It's basically giving us false warnings, false signals, trying to tell us that something is important - we're in danger - when we're really not.

So let's look at your pedophile fear. In fact, let's just take Harm OCD in general (obsessions about harming someone, whether through becoming a serial killer or murdering your child or whatever). My guess is one night you read a story in the newspaper or saw some special on TV about pedophiles. Somewhere you heard about a story of a pedophile and to YOU, that is one of the worst things that could ever happen to you. The WORST thing in the world would be becoming a pedophile. (By the way, pedophelia obsessions are actually common amongst OCD sufferers. You are not alone!)

So you started asking yourself questions, like, could I be able to do that? What if I could? Then you avoid being around children. Just hearing about kids makes you anxious. Your FEAR CENTER of your brain has associated children/stories about kids as warnings - it's trying to give you a false warning that oh no, if you are around children, you will become a pedophile. Same goes for Harm OCD sufferers. If you are around knives, suddenly you will go crazy and stab your family!

False warnings. But to us, they seem and feel very real. I don't know if you guys know this but another common obsession is the fear of becoming homosexual. It seems silly but to that OCD person, becoming gay is the WORST thing that could ever happen. So they avoid TV shows, songs, people, etc. that set off these false warning signals firing from our fear center of our brain.

The important thing to take away from this is that your brain is basically saying "HEY! Listen to me! This intrusive thought is important! I'm warning you! I'm sending you this gigantic warning!" To your brain, it is the singlemost important thought it has.

Soooo what has drastically helped me is something similar to what they teach in the program. I aim to make the thought un-important. When I get an intrusive thought, my first reaction used to be to start dissecting it, testing how I feel, testing what I think I might do in certain scenarios. Why did I think that, am I really this way, etc. etc. Instead of that, I now say to myself "thanks for the warning brain, but I am just not interested in hearing you right now." Then I have to make a BIG effort to distract myself. The goal being that the brain eventually gets the message that these thoughts are not really important anymore.

So let's take your pedophile example:

You get the thought "what if I am a pedophile?"
You start to feel anxious. Instead of going down the road of dissecting the thought, say back to your brain "thanks, but I'm just not interested in hearing what you have to say right now."

Then you have a to make a big effor to distract yourself. Focus on something. And by focus, I mean do what it takes, like saying to yourself "hmm that guy is wearing red. I like red. That lady has a nice haircut, maybe I should get a haircut like that," and so on. It takes a lot of practice but the more you do it, the easier it will get.

So let's say you run into one of your triggers - like a child. You have the scary thought - and you say, that's great, but I think I'll go read a book now. You have to be FIRM with yourself. I know how easy it is to give in and ruminate. You want to problem-solve, to reassure yourself you're not turning into a pedophile or a serial killer. You are searching for an "answer" that will give you ultimate relief. But for the OCD mind, it will always work around it and create even more doubt.

The more you can make the thought less important, the less it will bother you. I'm trying to apply this to my health fears (a new worry for me!) and see if it works. It has diminshed my fears in the past (schizo, relationship obsessions) and I am confident it will work now.

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