Blasphemous thoughts - please help!!

Boon · Post by **Boon** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:43 am

You have received very good advice here, James. Re-read it. You are resisting what is going on. Stop the resistance. Practice observing (allowing) the thoughts. They can not hurt you. When you stop fighting them they will cease.

Gman5256 · Post by **Gman5256** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:18 am

Hi James,

Just to make it clear, I am not a therapist, but think of my advice as spiritual in nature. As you are obsessing on these particular thoughts. You need to be equipped for the spiritual problem you are trying to deal with.

You stated that you never had these type of thoughts until after you got saved. Right? Go back to where you got saved, and discuss this matter in full, with your pastor and He can give you better guidance. I am not saying to not bother with the program, I am saying that both can work together to address the true underlying causes of the problems you may be having.

I am not there with you to see or provide a comforting ear or embrace, but your pastor and fellow brothers and sisters in the Lord can be. Being saved is not about religion it is about become a relationship expert.

You really can not develop true emotional connection and support via a forum, you really need the emotional support, that only human contact can provide. I am not saying it is impossible to get help through means of a forum; it just take probably 100 times longer.

Just think about all these people taking and keeping shelter behind the screens of a computer display. Sure, many of them care, but the relationships most are willing to take a chance on ends right there; behind the protection of a computer screen. Yeah, it is hard for many to confront that, and it doesn't make it go away either.

I do understand, many people do not want to reveal their feelings or concerns to people they know and sometimes, it does take a long time for that trust to develop. But you trusted a pastor to help you with a profound decision you made, why not trust him to help you see your way through this problem? That is what he is there for. At least if he can't help you, he maybe able help with guidance as to where you can get help.

Give that some thought, it beats whatever else is going on.

BTW, Boon. I thought your observations were good too. I don't know what a therapist or religious counseling might say or add to what any of us said, but sure is food for thought. Thanks.

Take care

Loving Mom · Post by **Loving Mom** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:10 pm

These aren't blasphemous thoughts, you're really, really angry and you're calling to God for help.

You need to remember that words are only words. The only language God speaks and understands is the language of the soul.

Fire away with you're "F... you God"!!!.........God understands everything, there's nothing that gets past God......God is a piece of you.

You are so loved and; if this is what you need right now to mend your heart, heal your aching soul, then it's "only words".
Don't feel guilty calling out to God. What's most important is: that you ARE calling out to God when you're in distress and in anger.

You must instinctively know that God hears your pain and understands.

Celeste1 · Post by **Celeste1** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:55 am

People have posted great responses here. I think it's important to add that as much as blasphemy (under these circumstances) is OCD, it can be defeated by psycholgical methods and/or being strong in the Lord. I personally believe the Lord can be your strength in any situation and with constant exposure to Christian fellowship, such thoughts will eventually subside. Gman5256 had some really great advice and made a good point about true emotional support. I think this is more important than any program or antianxiety method/medication on the market. I do hope you begin to feel better soon. I can only imagine how upsetting this is for you. Take care.

NinjaFrodo · Post by **NinjaFrodo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:36 pm

I understand that you have a very strong faith and you aren't liking those thoughts. With or Without religeousness involved, there are some thoughts that will keep coming up over and over and over. When they result in negative feelings, it is a sign that something is wrong and things need to change. I may be wrong about this but maybe it's a good time to figure out why you are having these thoughts.

Mike

ERB · Post by **ERB** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:47 pm

Remember, thoughts are just thoughts, they have no power over us. When you have a bad thought, even while praying, continue to pray and ask God for the strength to overcome. God loves you and is on your side, I also had negative thoughts and emotions sometimes while praying. One day I felt God wanted me to continue to pray and ignor any negative thoughts...It worked and I feel much better. God Bless All...

James1986 · Post by **James1986** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:15 am

Hey again, I'm still having trouble with these thoughts. Hateful thoughts against God constantly come to my mind and I fight against them and ask for forgiveness. It's really wearing me down. I have no strength to fight. And I'm starting to wonder if I really want these thoughts because they won't go away. I allways wanted to be saved and always told my wife that she had to love God more than me, but now I wonder was this all for nothing, I mean do I really hate God? I know I don't hate God but these curseings don't leave. I hate these thoughts and I do want to love God, and have told God that I hate these thoughts and to take them from me, but they still remain. That's why I even wonder if I want these thoughts. I know I hate them but they just stay there. Help.

mallorygodisgood · Post by **mallorygodisgood** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:11 am

James, no you do not want these thoughts, or you wouldnt be posting on here talking about how much you hate them. Your thoughts dont control you, you stand up and say...you know what, I hate these thoughts...and NO I dont like them. No matter what your mind says, you get to choose what you believe. Its as simple as that. So, let me tell you, God can work miracles, but he is not a magician and will probbly not just take these thoughts from your mind bc you know what? Another thought will come. That is OCD...You have to learn a way to get around these thoughts and not let them affect you. I know how you feel james, it used to happen when I pray...when I went to church...anytime. And it consumed my life, I was constantly crying, asking for prayers, because I was terrified that God was going to be angry at me for not controlling out though. Like I said before...God does not look at your mind, he looks at the heart. He knows in your heart that you truly hate this and it is YOU that is making a big deal out of this. He has forgiven you. He made you!! HE knows exactly how you really feel...and he LOVES you. He knows that those are just thoughts. Do you really think our God would send us to hell over something that we have absolutely no control over? No he is a just God and he will take care of his children! I promise you will be okay, I have been in your shoes and although it hasnt completely went away, it no longer bothers me.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:15 pm

Dearest Mallory...You are very wise young lady, and you give excellent advice!!!! I am sooo proud of you!!!! May God Richly Bless You Is My Prayer!!!

James1986 · Post by **James1986** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:05 am

Hi again I went 2 the doctor and he thinks I'm Bipolar, and wouldn't give me anything for depression. And he doesn't think that it is OCD, so that kind of confirms my fear of the thoughts being from my heart, sometimes there is peace in my mind though it lasts maybe a few hours then the thoughts come back and it's so hard to stop thinking about them and not ask for forgiveness. please PRAY for me.