Complete meltdown happening

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~*schnauzermom*~
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Post by ~*schnauzermom*~ » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:19 am

LovePhob,

Your situation sounds similar to someone I know in some ways.

The person I know is a full time stay at home mom. her oldest is 24 and living in her own place and her youngest is 8 and is in public school. She WANTS to work, but her husband says that HE works and SHE stays at home. Well after speaking to her on several occasions she says she is unhappy. Not with her marriage, but her inability to feel as if she is worth something. She WANTS a job Oh so bad. She says she like to do so many things and feels like she is trapped relying on her husband for everything. She says she wants to feel like is a contributor to the household. She wants to have responsibility other than laundry and dusting. She wants to interact with people and not be stuck at home all day looking at the walls. She feel disconnected and feels as if she does not know how to interact with anyone anymore. She feels a complete disconnect with society and life. She keeps asking her husband if she can get a part time job and he just tells her that HE brings home the bacon! She LOVED decorating wedding cakes and would love to go back to do that, but her hubby is old fashion about a woman working.

Maybe like her you need something to feel of value. You used to work and maybe that is what you miss...the responsibility, the interaction, the challenge, the meetings, etc, etc. Some people need that drive. I too miss working. I am a full time student and have no classes in the summer. My husband told me not to get a job over summer otherwise we would not be able to have a vacation around his schedule, which most likely IS true. But I miss the doing things, the challenge, the interaction, the projects, the deadlines...I miss being needed for something other than housework! Plus the paycheck is a VERY nice incentive and helps the household.

Maybe a low stress part time job just to get you out of the house?

I gather from reading your posts that it may be large decisions that are getting you :? . You know, those life long permanent decisions that lock you in...then you feel trapped, stuck with no way out? I too was like that but no see that NOTHING need to be permanent and it can even appear to be a mistake in the beginning and can work out to be better than one ever imagined it could be. Sometimes those big decision cause us to feel anxious, but it is an excited anxious because we are happy and maybe cannot believe what is happening to us?

When I went back to college I was TERRIFIED! I do not know of many upper thirty somethings that go back to school. But I faired well and hopefully will finish up May 2009. I never thought I could do it and pull off a 3.95 GPA to boot, but I did. Look back and see the many accomplishments achieved and see that you succeeded. Now look back on the things that did not turn out say great as you would want them too...things REALLY were not sooooo bad, were they? They usually are not. And the best part is we can learn...life is a lesson, we experience various things to learn and grow from.
"Afterall, everybody only hears what he understands." by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Post by sunbound » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:47 am

LovePhob,

Great job on the lack of anxiety - heck, even if it had been only 1/2 hour, it's an improvement!

It's good that your husband apologized for his rudeness. Sorry to hear he did that and it caused a tail-spin. What I try to remember when something similar happens with my husband is that he does not have ill will towards me. If he doesn't realize its effects, then I'll inform him and he'll apologize and really not try to do it again. If he recognizes it beforehand, he'll just come right out and apologize.

On the other hand, when I say something before thinking and act a bit idiotic, I'm hoping he knows I don't have ill will toward him!

As Emily says, keep those non-anxious feelings at the forefront of your mind. Think positive thoughts - I've been anxious-free before and I can be it again!

Great sense of humor, btw. Oh and when you find that p.a., let me know how you like the arrangement. I'm sure I could use one too. ;-)

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Post by LovePhob » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:09 am

Thanks Emily Scnauzer and Sunbound -

The depession has eased quite a lot, I haven't wept since Saturday and I think that means the breakdown process is moving along, which I see as good because that means it will eventually burn itself out.

The tears have turned into insomnia and generalize high anxiety. One thing that I need to rememebr to be proud of myself for is that I'm trowing everything I can at it, the program, medication, got a cognitive behavioral therapist, and have been taking 2.5 miles walks every day. I'm certain that it doesn't help that I work (my craft business) alone at home, not enough opportunites for distraction and interaction. The anxiety becomes all encompassing. When I'm not thinking about it, more times than not, I don't feel anxious. I need to figure out a way to not think about it more often, hopefully the 2 hours will become 3, then 5, then 12 etc...

You know the funny thing is that I do consider myself (mostly) recovered. I used to have panic attacks every day which turned into a mild agoraphobia. Now, although I have anxious and depressive episodes, it's usually not an every day thing. What I'm experiencing now (what I consider a brakdown) has only happened 3 times in 8 years, so I guess I should sort of consider myslef lucky?

Thanks again for all of your support, if I didn't have you all to talk to, I'm sure this would be a lot less bareable.

-Kristen

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Post by sunbound » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:29 am

Kristen,

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better and am SO proud of you for taking all of the steps you've taken. That's just awesome and shows great dedication to your health! Be proud of your efforts and accomplishments. :)

BTW, can you listen to music while you craft? I sometimes find that not only does it raise my spirits, but if I'm singing along, my mind doesn't go into tailspins as easily.

Best wishes to you!

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Post by LovePhob » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:32 am

Thanks sunbound -

Another thing I have noticed while rereading my last post is that although I may be progressing, I still haven't learned to spell :)

- K

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Post by A11 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:40 pm

Hello. I am on week 3 of the program and I just want to thank you for what you wrote about your anxiety and stress regarding moving and marriage. About two years ago, I moved across the country with my ex-boyfriend so that I could finish school. He wanted to move as well. I moved to a completely different climate that I wasn't used to and we didn't know anyone. A few unfortunate events took place and it all led to me feeling anxiety in a way I have never felt before. The anxiety caused me to shut down a bit toward my boyfriend which in return made him very mad at me. It went on for only a few months but he ended up cheating on me and leaving me. I want to finish school so I moved into my own apartment and am still here. But, it has been a struggle and I have felt anxiety like never before. To hear your stories, and how you were anxious and scared to be away from home and make such a huge commitment is making me realize that what I did wasn't so bad. I have been beating myself up and feeling so guilty about what I did wrong, when really, from what I understand, I experienced anxiety and fear, nothing more and I shouldn't feel so guilty. Thank you.

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Post by sunbound » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:26 am

Who wouldn't feel anxiety and fear with such big moves as we've made. The question is, what do we do with it.

I think it's great you've gotten your own place and have decided to finish school there! You are facing your fears and anxiety daily. Keep up the good work. :)

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Post by LovePhob » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:31 am

A11 - It take alot of guts to move and to make the commitment to yourself to stay in school, you should be proud of yourself. Anxiety and fear are part of everyday life. And if you're just starting the program and already realizing that, you're in great shape :)

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Post by LovePhob » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:34 am

I really hope I'm not overstaying my welcome with this thread, but the tears started again last night.

You know how w/ panic or generalized anxiety, you connect events and emotions. So if you had a panic attack while driving, you suddenly become scared of driving.

I'm making that same association with my husband. We're doing things that make me anxious as a couple (like moving and buying a house), so I think I'm starting to associate him with my anxiety and become fearful that I'll run away from the relationship. My husband is a wonderful man, in many ways (because of my self esteem issues) I feel like I don't deserve him. I hadn't cried since Saturday, although the anxiety has still been extreme, but last night the tears started flowing again and began again this morning. I even cried through the relaxation tape. I am so frustrated with this, and sad for myse;f and my husband. I start "what if"ing about leaving all the time and feel the pain and guilt that I'll hurt my family and him. And then get scared that I'll be alone, because if start running, i probably won't stop...These thoughts at minimum are sucking evey ounce of joy out of the moment and at max, could ruin my life.

And of course after a week of these posts I just want to scream at myself to just get over it already!

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Post by sunbound » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:26 am

Don't forget that wherever you go, there you are! So, if you're thinking about running - why? What are you running away from? Are you sure that won't be with you where you go?

This is the tough stuff. It's ok to cry as long as you realize what it is that you're crying about. If it's about fears, be not afraid! Are you Christian? If so, do you remember the first words Pope John Paul II said as he became pope? It was the words most used in the bible, "Be not afraid!"

Remember that "what if'ing" is not a helpful way of thinking. I haven't yet gotten to the lesson about that, so I can't suggest how to change it. How about - "What if things turn out really well?" "What if we find the house that we love?" "What if my new best friend is in the neighborhood I didn't think I liked - but we ended up buying a house in?" "What if God has a great plan for us that I'm just not seeing?"

I guess we can do a positive what if - although I suppose we're not supposed to "what if" at all!

We have good and bad days. It's ok.

Have you written down your negative thoughts and rewritten them into positive thoughts? I really found that to help. Look at session 3 a bit for that. Find something positive about what you're saying to yourself.

It's ok to keep coming back to the post. We are here to support each other. I've already seen your posts in various threads helping others.

It will get better. You're going through a rough time and it WILL pass. You WILL be stronger for it. Your marriage WILL survive it and be better for it.

Kind regards!

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