FEAR OF FEAR/ANXIETY SYMPTOMS
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Calendergirl99
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Just curious. Lucinda does not mention about the fear of the symptoms that people are experiencing (or am I the only one freaked out by them?????)......she also doesn't mention that the nervous system is sensitized and easily shoots off these symptoms......she also does not mention that this disorder causes alot of sleep problems........can anyone relate to what I am saying? If yes, let me know.....if someone knows which session I could learn about what I just mentioned, let me know....thanks so much..........
Calendergirl99, I can fully relate to what you just said. I was thinking the same thing when I was going through the programme. I am now 100% fully recovered.
The programme is excellent, and you really need to dedicate 100% to it. It took me 3 and a half months after my first ever panic attack to fully recover, because I dedicated myself to the programme 7 days a week, several times each day. But I believe besides the programme you will need other resources to really help you change your thinking.
A good additional recovery tool to go with this programme is the book: "When Panic Attacks" by David D. Burns. This book gives an exceptional detailed explanation of what Anxiety, Depression and Panic Attacks are and solid information about taking medication. Head over to amazon.com and read the customer reviews.
All the best.
The programme is excellent, and you really need to dedicate 100% to it. It took me 3 and a half months after my first ever panic attack to fully recover, because I dedicated myself to the programme 7 days a week, several times each day. But I believe besides the programme you will need other resources to really help you change your thinking.
A good additional recovery tool to go with this programme is the book: "When Panic Attacks" by David D. Burns. This book gives an exceptional detailed explanation of what Anxiety, Depression and Panic Attacks are and solid information about taking medication. Head over to amazon.com and read the customer reviews.
All the best.
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Hi Calendergirl,
I just started session 3 cd last night. I'm sure Lucinda has talked on the dvd-cd's in both 1 and 2 about the fear we have about panic and or anxiety attacks as do others in a group talk. Your book covering sessions 1-4 also goes into it and how to deal with the scary thoughts, fears, hormones released by your body as you become more anxious and so on. She tells you to not fear the attack but try to let it flow and tell yourself your alright it's just an axiety attack or panic attack and it's ok to feel that way but you need to learn how to deal with them and not become more worked up. The more worked up or affraid you get the more often during an attack the more often your body keeps releasing these hormones that make you worse. I listened to each session 3 times, watched the dvd that covers those sesions, read the book and did the assignments in the book. Take your time and if you have to listen more than 3 times then do so. It's a lot to take in and we have been doing these things to ourselves for a long time. Just be in a quiet room and try to get relaxed and comfy and just listen to her and everyone elses stories, do your homework, and just BELIEVE in yourself and the program. IT WILL ALL FALL INTO PLACE, IT WILL HELP YOU, it's helped thousands and thousands of people recover fully.
We are all in this together and want each other to succeed. Don't give up for your own sake!!!
You are so worthy of complete joy and happiness.
((((HUG))))
MM
I just started session 3 cd last night. I'm sure Lucinda has talked on the dvd-cd's in both 1 and 2 about the fear we have about panic and or anxiety attacks as do others in a group talk. Your book covering sessions 1-4 also goes into it and how to deal with the scary thoughts, fears, hormones released by your body as you become more anxious and so on. She tells you to not fear the attack but try to let it flow and tell yourself your alright it's just an axiety attack or panic attack and it's ok to feel that way but you need to learn how to deal with them and not become more worked up. The more worked up or affraid you get the more often during an attack the more often your body keeps releasing these hormones that make you worse. I listened to each session 3 times, watched the dvd that covers those sesions, read the book and did the assignments in the book. Take your time and if you have to listen more than 3 times then do so. It's a lot to take in and we have been doing these things to ourselves for a long time. Just be in a quiet room and try to get relaxed and comfy and just listen to her and everyone elses stories, do your homework, and just BELIEVE in yourself and the program. IT WILL ALL FALL INTO PLACE, IT WILL HELP YOU, it's helped thousands and thousands of people recover fully.
We are all in this together and want each other to succeed. Don't give up for your own sake!!!
You are so worthy of complete joy and happiness.
((((HUG))))
MM
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all good advice.
i too, like the prodigy son, have "when panic attacks" by Burns. my wonderful wife bought it for me, to help me through this stuff.
it came recommended by a social worker specializing in grief counseling. it is good stuff.
Lucinda's book "From Panic to Power" always provides me with a good shot in the arm of feel good confidence and I always feel that I can relate to her so well. I feel as though her experience was mine.
and congrats on the recovery, prodigy...i am proud of you, good neighbor from across the pond! i will shortly be joining you in recovery.
i too, like the prodigy son, have "when panic attacks" by Burns. my wonderful wife bought it for me, to help me through this stuff.
it came recommended by a social worker specializing in grief counseling. it is good stuff.
Lucinda's book "From Panic to Power" always provides me with a good shot in the arm of feel good confidence and I always feel that I can relate to her so well. I feel as though her experience was mine.
and congrats on the recovery, prodigy...i am proud of you, good neighbor from across the pond! i will shortly be joining you in recovery.
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Paul R., thanks. I have been recovered now for quite sometime 0% anxiety, depression, no scary thoughts, obsessive thinking, etc, and it feels great. A few weeks ago I had the best sleep of my entire life. But I still go through the programme at least 3 times a week and read books on rational and positive thinking to keep my mind focused to avoid a relapse.Paul R.
I to also have Lucinda's "Panic to Power" book, a great read and also very helpful.
Best of luck on the road to recovery.
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Fear of symptoms...as in fear of anxiety or panic? Or fear of shortness of breath, or unreal feelings? Either way, the answer I believe is somewhat the same when you feel these....it seems simple but it is hard at the same time: so what. Two simple words that often can be so hard for us to say! My panic disorder has persisted primarly because of my fear of fear: i HATE the feeling of panic. I don't worry about the occasional ache/pain, tightness in my chest, etc. etc. With me it typically comes back to "oh no, am I starting to panic!" which then launches me to then be followed by "oh god, I hate this so and wish it would stop" which throws the gasoline on the fire.
"So what" is your friend. Stuffy nose? So what. Wake up in the middle of the night? So what. You get the idea....only recently have I been able to start applying this to strong anxious or pre-panic: oh, i'm feeling pretty anxious....so what, it won't kill me, it will come and go as it always does....in fact, bring it on if it wants to but i'm not going to let it stop me.
That last bit is still hard but I'm getting better. I intellectually knew it to be true but couldn't say it when the time came. The first time I tried it with some modest anxiety felt like jumping off a cliff....it was that hard to make the leap of faith. But I did, and the anxiety backed off! It actually worked....just like my therapist had been assuring me it would for months. IT is still hard but will get easier over time...I know this.
Take your symptoms, say "so what", and get on with your day. Sounds simple, should be simple, but it isn't...I know that....but trust me, you need to try....each time you try, it will get easier.
"So what" is your friend. Stuffy nose? So what. Wake up in the middle of the night? So what. You get the idea....only recently have I been able to start applying this to strong anxious or pre-panic: oh, i'm feeling pretty anxious....so what, it won't kill me, it will come and go as it always does....in fact, bring it on if it wants to but i'm not going to let it stop me.
That last bit is still hard but I'm getting better. I intellectually knew it to be true but couldn't say it when the time came. The first time I tried it with some modest anxiety felt like jumping off a cliff....it was that hard to make the leap of faith. But I did, and the anxiety backed off! It actually worked....just like my therapist had been assuring me it would for months. IT is still hard but will get easier over time...I know this.
Take your symptoms, say "so what", and get on with your day. Sounds simple, should be simple, but it isn't...I know that....but trust me, you need to try....each time you try, it will get easier.