"You are not alone." I am alone.
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i am so sorry you have lots of frustration with new business stuff --that alone is frustration city learning. focusing is huge problem when stressed also plus negative thinking can be ongoing. after lesson 3ing long time, i had some big setbacks when life changed and threw me big curveballs as life can do. its like redoing the program certain needed lessons and certainly that olde ongoing negative thinking lesson 3ing took me long time again. but it works for me in time, and second go thru nevber as hard as first time thru program. i wish i had more helpful insight, but those are the repetitious things that eventually helped me. best wishes and i understand the 'wrathy' part...we have hot buttons of discouragement and when others push them with their beliefs it can rattle. you are fine prog...i am sending you good wiswhes and faith this lack of focus can in time settle with more self acceptance and building your esteem journaling lesson 3 and some other helpful thgs out there. i am a senior citizen and had this all my life...never got the program til already a senior citizen...i soooo know the discouragement hopelessness and lack of focus....but i am pretty well now. 'wrathiness', we all got some of that prog, because we sorts have experienced great damage long spells in one area or many more. (((((cyber hugs prog))))), its just practice practice practice being less affected9LESSON 4)..but no --none of us 'perfected', and can fall short periodically.p.s. LESSON 5 EXERCIZE SHORTS HAVE BEEN MAJORLY HELPFUL TO ME -JUST THE DEEPER BELLY BREATHING AND DISTRACTION GETTING THRU THE EXERCISE SPELLS, HAS HELPED FREE UP MY STUCK MIND WHEN I WAS STUCK IN NEGS) oops sporry caps.
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Progkiller,
It sounds like you were very good and comfortable with your old job as a salesman. I was wondering if starting your own business is making you be hard on yourself? it is stressful to anyone to start a new business. there is no certainty in it. but there is no certainty in anything. i do think that the program gives you the skills to help yourself but you do have to use them from time to time. especially when you are going through stressful times. I think you need to remind yourself that everything is fine. and if you've been without medication this long i think you will not have to use it. At the end of session 4 in the workbook even Lucinda tells a story about a time she was getting very stressed out and a song came on the radio and she started dancing and singing and remembered to live in the moment. I know starting your own business is probably full of deadlines to meet and all kinds of stressful things. Try to just take it a day at a time or a moment at a time. i do think negative thinking is so easy to come by and many of us have that problem but it sounds like you are doing what you are supposed to to change it. maybe you lack patience with it. Remember to feel good about yourself too. I dont know if this helps but you sound so discouraged so i hope this encourages you.
It sounds like you were very good and comfortable with your old job as a salesman. I was wondering if starting your own business is making you be hard on yourself? it is stressful to anyone to start a new business. there is no certainty in it. but there is no certainty in anything. i do think that the program gives you the skills to help yourself but you do have to use them from time to time. especially when you are going through stressful times. I think you need to remind yourself that everything is fine. and if you've been without medication this long i think you will not have to use it. At the end of session 4 in the workbook even Lucinda tells a story about a time she was getting very stressed out and a song came on the radio and she started dancing and singing and remembered to live in the moment. I know starting your own business is probably full of deadlines to meet and all kinds of stressful things. Try to just take it a day at a time or a moment at a time. i do think negative thinking is so easy to come by and many of us have that problem but it sounds like you are doing what you are supposed to to change it. maybe you lack patience with it. Remember to feel good about yourself too. I dont know if this helps but you sound so discouraged so i hope this encourages you.
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michelle, on the contrary, I have experience less pressure when I start my business. I am actually building a website full time. I don't have any deadline. I may need to finish it quick but I can finish it as soon as I want. Originally, I think that my situation would be better after I hire somebody to work with since my problem is social anxiety. However, it is not the case, I have hired two people to build the website with me but I still feel bad. I tried to taught computer classes but I feel depersonalized after teaching. This depersonalization feeling is killing me. I try to work on Chapter 10 of the program a few days ago because I didn't do it before. I thought I didn't have obsessive thinking. It was originally good but I am feeling bad now after I read the positive sentences for many times. I feel scared when I read something I am starting to get bored.
Please give me any advice you have. I had not met my psychiatrist for quite a few years. I will meet him next week and take medicine if I still cannot handle this.
Please give me any advice you have. I had not met my psychiatrist for quite a few years. I will meet him next week and take medicine if I still cannot handle this.
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progkiller,
I am only on session 4 and I dont have social anxiety so I may not be the best person to give you advice. I still get the feeling you are being too hard on yourself. Also, i tried a few medications that I had problems with so I was taking some all natural stuff that really did help with my depression but now Im not taking anything. I was taking that and some vitamins every morning but I was so nervous about taking all that everyday even though its all safe and all natural i just couldnt quit thinking badly about it everyday so I quit taking all of it. Maybe you could give ME some advice. Are you still doing anything with the program like the relaxation tape? and you said you were teaching some class but werent getting any enjoment out of it or you felt depersonalized? can you elaborate on that? its good that you are starting your own business and you arent too stressed about it. that is great! I think if medication will help you than you should do that. maybe you do need to review a few sessions to remind yourself about good thinking like session 3. i know this disorder is such a pain and feels so crippling at times but I also know that its up to us to get better. Not what you want to hear im sure. if you got better before and its creeping back in I just think you need to review some of the lessons. We didnt get this way overnight and its going to take lots of practice to think a different way. i hope you had a good day.
I am only on session 4 and I dont have social anxiety so I may not be the best person to give you advice. I still get the feeling you are being too hard on yourself. Also, i tried a few medications that I had problems with so I was taking some all natural stuff that really did help with my depression but now Im not taking anything. I was taking that and some vitamins every morning but I was so nervous about taking all that everyday even though its all safe and all natural i just couldnt quit thinking badly about it everyday so I quit taking all of it. Maybe you could give ME some advice. Are you still doing anything with the program like the relaxation tape? and you said you were teaching some class but werent getting any enjoment out of it or you felt depersonalized? can you elaborate on that? its good that you are starting your own business and you arent too stressed about it. that is great! I think if medication will help you than you should do that. maybe you do need to review a few sessions to remind yourself about good thinking like session 3. i know this disorder is such a pain and feels so crippling at times but I also know that its up to us to get better. Not what you want to hear im sure. if you got better before and its creeping back in I just think you need to review some of the lessons. We didnt get this way overnight and its going to take lots of practice to think a different way. i hope you had a good day.
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michelle37, thanks for your patience of giving me comments. I took the program in 2007 and I thought I recovered. However, I remember that I still cannot focus on silent work and I tried to escape from doing those works since it would get my negative feeling comes back. However, I was a salesman and I was selling most of the time that I feel good when I need to sell people things.
I don't think there is any way that can make me recover fully without medicine. However, I like your idea of taking some nature health products. Could you share your experience with me and give me recommendations?
I don't think there is any way that can make me recover fully without medicine. However, I like your idea of taking some nature health products. Could you share your experience with me and give me recommendations?
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michelle, about your problem of taking health product, I had a lot of time thinking about this problem especially when I need to give up my drug free approach to deal with my anxiety. If you need to take any medicine or health product to control your anxiety or depression, just take it. When you feel better, you can try to demedicate slowly. However, if you feel that you cannot control your problem without drugs, just continue to take it, life is too short for you to waste on struggling for your emotion. If you are only taking nature product, you even don't need to be afraid of side effects. Just continue to take it, I take health products for my health therefore, I totally accept health products. It's just like taking a meal, you need a meal to survive anyway.
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Alone? You don't want to hear my story.. It's true that we feel alone. You may literally be alone, but the point is that many ppl have experienced what you have in different ways. Remember there's always someone who has had it worse. Oh, wait, I know what your thinking. "No one could have it worse than me" Yeah that's what we all think. My theory is we all have it bad in different ways.
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how can i help you ? maybe you would rather talk to a male. i am a female psychiatric RN and i have anxiety also, and i am trying to beat it. if i can help you i would be happy to try. even thought lucinda says no one can help you can out of this except your self, it is nice to have some support along the way. good luck to you