How many times do you have to do the program before it works
you don't have to take mess if you just have anxiety. I didn't. I did the program about one and a half times and then I used the chapters that I needed more work on. Some people do the program once and they're fine and some people has done it four times, it depends on the person. Don't get discouraged when you hear of people going through it multiple times, they may be worse off than you, or just have a more difficult time grasping the concepts.
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I've gone thru the program three times in a row. The first time worked for the anxiety, but I wanted to reinforce it as much as possible. Each time I went thru it I came to more insight about what I was avoiding and why. It was recommended that we go thru it twice, so I figured a third time won't hurt. I stopped any meds when I started the program and have not needed them since.
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I am currently finishing up my last week in the program. I made so much progress and "enjoyed the journey" so much I am looking forward to doing it again. The program is so uplifting that I found myself looking forward to my sessions. One thing I would caution against is thinking that you have to get everything perfect in each session. I worked through the sessions, going with what came to mind, working on those things, and then moving on to the next session after 7 days. Knowing I could rework the program as many times as I wanted freed me up from perfectionism and, I think, is what made the program enjoyable for me. Enjoy!
Darb
Darb
Remember, an Eagle never has the same air under its wings.
So it is with life, there is something different each day.
So it is with life, there is something different each day.
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Ive been on the program for a week now I feel a difference just by listening to to everyones testimony knowing that I am not the only one going through this and I am getting more confident day by day being able to vent. It will work for you, believe me We are truly strong people to even have to deal with what we deal with on a daily basis makes us strong. For you to take this step makes you strong
You're doing something really good for yourself, don't worry about how long it might take. I'm on go-round #2. I'm very happy with the materials and with what I learned the first time around, but there were concepts I did not grasp and I have some resistance behaviors. Since I've had this condition for over 20 years now, I realize that for me it takes more than 15 weeks to undo 20+ years plus it is up to me to really want to change. Enjoy the journey, and check back in.
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The PROGRAM is more of a MINDSET & LIFESTYLE, in my opinion. Therefore, learning it + applying its teachings + changing takes time. Change doesn't happen over nite. It takes hard work.
Everyone is different. We all have different backgrounds + issues to work through + routes to take on our individual journey's to recovery(this ='s what & all we may literally need to do in order to RECOVER) + the level/severity of our individual diagnosis & what we are diagnosed w/ (anxiety disorder OR panic attacks OR OCD OR PTSD, etc). There is no 1 clear cut path EXCLUSIVELY for EVERYONE. Nor is there 1 PRE-SET TIME FRAME. <span class="ev_code_RED">There is a COMMON DENOMINATOR amongst all ANXIETY DISORDER SUFFERERS: it is is the sufferer doing everything w/ in his/her power to recover: irrevelant to time + possible work involved + mountains you may have to climb + thing & fears you may have to feel - YOU DO IT ANYWAY. This includes the program. The common thread amongs all those who have recovered fr anxiety disorder & or depression, is their WILLINGNESS TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RECOVER. W/ "willingnes" being the operative word.</span>
Others were right, what works for 1 & how long it took them, may not work for another. So, don't pay mind so much on the OTHER PERSON - when you compare yourself to someone else, you're always going to feel disappointed + you're always going to come up short cause no 2 people are alike: you are not he, he his not you, she is not him, etc. They didn't live your life & you didn't live theirs. You are you. Be like that horse w BLINDERS ON = focused, w/ your eyes on the prize. Allow yourself to be WILLING to do what & all is right for YOU, in your particular case, TO RECOVER - based on well informed information & pro-active, not REACTIVE actions.
Medications is a very sensitive topic. Choosing to take a medication is a very personal choice. If a medication is a necessity, based on the invidividuals singular case, that decision should be made in CONJUNCTION w/ medical professionals: a therapist/psychiatrist + primary physician + pharmacist, etc. It is common amongst sufferers to be afraid of med's for numerous reasons. That is understandable. Not everyone needs a medication & the right to choose to NOT take 1 is your choice. I would like to mention, medications are also a valuable TOOL/AID in helping the sufferer help themselves as they heal or recover. They don't need to be forever/indifinitely. I am not mentioning it now & here to SWAY YOU IN ANY WAY - honest. I am mentioning it for 1 purpose only: Through my very own experience + reading the boards for several yr's now + seeing how the paralizing FEAR anxiety disorder creates in an inidividual & how that FEAR impairs our decision making, I see how anxiety disorder can inhibit our sometimes doing what is good or better for us. That may & can include our taking a medication. If the decision is well informed, not based on the fear anxiety disorder is creating, GOD BLESS. My concern stems fr those decisions based solely on the fears anxiety disorder is creating. I never took a medication in my entire life, other than an anti-biotic for the flu. When my anxiety disorder was triggered & I was subsequently, officially diagnosed, I needed to seriously consider it - BASED ON MY CASE. I was diagnosed w/ anxiety disorder + panic attacks + PTSD - fr 3 diff things. I was also experiencing SEVERE sleep deprivation = w/ my getting only 1-2 hrs of sleep PER EVERY 24 HRS. My case was severe - I couldn't work any longer & I was literally 2 steps away fr a psych hospital. I don't say this to frighten anyone. It was what it was & I needed to truly realize it back then. I needed to make a choice.
Medications are not the ans to all. They don't just make everything ALL BETTER & all issues RESOLVED. They simply calm the symptoms so the sufferer can do the work necessary - w/ that 1 day, they wouldn't need it anymore. After I spoke to alllllllllllllllllll my dr's & pharmacist, I MADE AN INFORMED DECISION, I did not make 1 decision based on fear. Yes, I did decide to take an anxiety med & sleep aids - I desperately needed them. I had 2 diff dr's tell me I was 1 of the worst cases they had seen - w/ 1 of them dr's having 30+ yrs psychiatric experience. When that happened to me, it brought things home. I told my psychiatrist, "I will take the meds. However, we're going to go there. We're going to do what we need to do so I don't have to take it forever." We did just that. In addition, I WORKED IT LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS. In my spare time, outside of therapy, I hit the ground running. I initiated journaling researched = reading like 16 books on anxiety disorder to become informed & therefore empowered + I went through Lucinda's program 2X'S. I AM RECOVERED. I haven't taken an anxiety med or sleep aid in 2 yrs.
Whatever your decisions are, they are your own. This program works when the person works the program AS INSTRUCTED. How long it is gonna take is not a question I can answer. It will vary. Don't get discouraged - keep @ it, take your time, be compassionate w/ yourself - empower yourself & recovery will be yours.
Your friend,
LENORE
Everyone is different. We all have different backgrounds + issues to work through + routes to take on our individual journey's to recovery(this ='s what & all we may literally need to do in order to RECOVER) + the level/severity of our individual diagnosis & what we are diagnosed w/ (anxiety disorder OR panic attacks OR OCD OR PTSD, etc). There is no 1 clear cut path EXCLUSIVELY for EVERYONE. Nor is there 1 PRE-SET TIME FRAME. <span class="ev_code_RED">There is a COMMON DENOMINATOR amongst all ANXIETY DISORDER SUFFERERS: it is is the sufferer doing everything w/ in his/her power to recover: irrevelant to time + possible work involved + mountains you may have to climb + thing & fears you may have to feel - YOU DO IT ANYWAY. This includes the program. The common thread amongs all those who have recovered fr anxiety disorder & or depression, is their WILLINGNESS TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RECOVER. W/ "willingnes" being the operative word.</span>
Others were right, what works for 1 & how long it took them, may not work for another. So, don't pay mind so much on the OTHER PERSON - when you compare yourself to someone else, you're always going to feel disappointed + you're always going to come up short cause no 2 people are alike: you are not he, he his not you, she is not him, etc. They didn't live your life & you didn't live theirs. You are you. Be like that horse w BLINDERS ON = focused, w/ your eyes on the prize. Allow yourself to be WILLING to do what & all is right for YOU, in your particular case, TO RECOVER - based on well informed information & pro-active, not REACTIVE actions.
Medications is a very sensitive topic. Choosing to take a medication is a very personal choice. If a medication is a necessity, based on the invidividuals singular case, that decision should be made in CONJUNCTION w/ medical professionals: a therapist/psychiatrist + primary physician + pharmacist, etc. It is common amongst sufferers to be afraid of med's for numerous reasons. That is understandable. Not everyone needs a medication & the right to choose to NOT take 1 is your choice. I would like to mention, medications are also a valuable TOOL/AID in helping the sufferer help themselves as they heal or recover. They don't need to be forever/indifinitely. I am not mentioning it now & here to SWAY YOU IN ANY WAY - honest. I am mentioning it for 1 purpose only: Through my very own experience + reading the boards for several yr's now + seeing how the paralizing FEAR anxiety disorder creates in an inidividual & how that FEAR impairs our decision making, I see how anxiety disorder can inhibit our sometimes doing what is good or better for us. That may & can include our taking a medication. If the decision is well informed, not based on the fear anxiety disorder is creating, GOD BLESS. My concern stems fr those decisions based solely on the fears anxiety disorder is creating. I never took a medication in my entire life, other than an anti-biotic for the flu. When my anxiety disorder was triggered & I was subsequently, officially diagnosed, I needed to seriously consider it - BASED ON MY CASE. I was diagnosed w/ anxiety disorder + panic attacks + PTSD - fr 3 diff things. I was also experiencing SEVERE sleep deprivation = w/ my getting only 1-2 hrs of sleep PER EVERY 24 HRS. My case was severe - I couldn't work any longer & I was literally 2 steps away fr a psych hospital. I don't say this to frighten anyone. It was what it was & I needed to truly realize it back then. I needed to make a choice.
Medications are not the ans to all. They don't just make everything ALL BETTER & all issues RESOLVED. They simply calm the symptoms so the sufferer can do the work necessary - w/ that 1 day, they wouldn't need it anymore. After I spoke to alllllllllllllllllll my dr's & pharmacist, I MADE AN INFORMED DECISION, I did not make 1 decision based on fear. Yes, I did decide to take an anxiety med & sleep aids - I desperately needed them. I had 2 diff dr's tell me I was 1 of the worst cases they had seen - w/ 1 of them dr's having 30+ yrs psychiatric experience. When that happened to me, it brought things home. I told my psychiatrist, "I will take the meds. However, we're going to go there. We're going to do what we need to do so I don't have to take it forever." We did just that. In addition, I WORKED IT LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS. In my spare time, outside of therapy, I hit the ground running. I initiated journaling researched = reading like 16 books on anxiety disorder to become informed & therefore empowered + I went through Lucinda's program 2X'S. I AM RECOVERED. I haven't taken an anxiety med or sleep aid in 2 yrs.
Whatever your decisions are, they are your own. This program works when the person works the program AS INSTRUCTED. How long it is gonna take is not a question I can answer. It will vary. Don't get discouraged - keep @ it, take your time, be compassionate w/ yourself - empower yourself & recovery will be yours.
Your friend,
LENORE
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Wow, I am very, very inspired by your experience and perspective.Originally posted by Lenore:
The PROGRAM is more of a MINDSET & LIFESTYLE, in my opinion. Therefore, learning it + applying its teachings + changing takes time. Change doesn't happen over nite. It takes hard work.
Everyone is different. We all have different backgrounds + issues to work through + routes to take on our individual journey's to recovery(this ='s what & all we may literally need to do in order to RECOVER) + the level/severity of our individual diagnosis & what we are diagnosed w/ (anxiety disorder OR panic attacks OR OCD OR PTSD, etc). There is no 1 clear cut path EXCLUSIVELY for EVERYONE. Nor is there 1 PRE-SET TIME FRAME. <span class="ev_code_RED">There is a COMMON DENOMINATOR amongst all ANXIETY DISORDER SUFFERERS: it is is the sufferer doing everything w/ in his/her power to recover: irrevelant to time + possible work involved + mountains you may have to climb + thing & fears you may have to feel - YOU DO IT ANYWAY. This includes the program. The common thread amongs all those who have recovered fr anxiety disorder & or depression, is their WILLINGNESS TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RECOVER. W/ "willingnes" being the operative word.</span>
Others were right, what works for 1 & how long it took them, may not work for another. So, don't pay mind so much on the OTHER PERSON - when you compare yourself to someone else, you're always going to feel disappointed + you're always going to come up short cause no 2 people are alike: you are not he, he his not you, she is not him, etc. They didn't live your life & you didn't live theirs. You are you. Be like that horse w BLINDERS ON = focused, w/ your eyes on the prize. Allow yourself to be WILLING to do what & all is right for YOU, in your particular case, TO RECOVER - based on well informed information & pro-active, not REACTIVE actions.
Medications is a very sensitive topic. Choosing to take a medication is a very personal choice. If a medication is a necessity, based on the invidividuals singular case, that decision should be made in CONJUNCTION w/ medical professionals: a therapist/psychiatrist + primary physician + pharmacist, etc. It is common amongst sufferers to be afraid of med's for numerous reasons. That is understandable. Not everyone needs a medication & the right to choose to NOT take 1 is your choice. I would like to mention, medications are also a valuable TOOL/AID in helping the sufferer help themselves as they heal or recover. They don't need to be forever/indifinitely. I am not mentioning it now & here to SWAY YOU IN ANY WAY - honest. I am mentioning it for 1 purpose only: Through my very own experience + reading the boards for several yr's now + seeing how the paralizing FEAR anxiety disorder creates in an inidividual & how that FEAR impairs our decision making, I see how anxiety disorder can inhibit our sometimes doing what is good or better for us. That may & can include our taking a medication. If the decision is well informed, not based on the fear anxiety disorder is creating, GOD BLESS. My concern stems fr those decisions based solely on the fears anxiety disorder is creating. I never took a medication in my entire life, other than an anti-biotic for the flu. When my anxiety disorder was triggered & I was subsequently, officially diagnosed, I needed to seriously consider it - BASED ON MY CASE. I was diagnosed w/ anxiety disorder + panic attacks + PTSD - fr 3 diff things. I was also experiencing SEVERE sleep deprivation = w/ my getting only 1-2 hrs of sleep PER EVERY 24 HRS. My case was severe - I couldn't work any longer & I was literally 2 steps away fr a psych hospital. I don't say this to frighten anyone. It was what it was & I needed to truly realize it back then. I needed to make a choice.
Medications are not the ans to all. They don't just make everything ALL BETTER & all issues RESOLVED. They simply calm the symptoms so the sufferer can do the work necessary - w/ that 1 day, they wouldn't need it anymore. After I spoke to alllllllllllllllllll my dr's & pharmacist, I MADE AN INFORMED DECISION, I did not make 1 decision based on fear. Yes, I did decide to take an anxiety med & sleep aids - I desperately needed them. I had 2 diff dr's tell me I was 1 of the worst cases they had seen - w/ 1 of them dr's having 30+ yrs psychiatric experience. When that happened to me, it brought things home. I told my psychiatrist, "I will take the meds. However, we're going to go there. We're going to do what we need to do so I don't have to take it forever." We did just that. In addition, I WORKED IT LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS. In my spare time, outside of therapy, I hit the ground running. I initiated journaling researched = reading like 16 books on anxiety disorder to become informed & therefore empowered + I went through Lucinda's program 2X'S. I AM RECOVERED. I haven't taken an anxiety med or sleep aid in 2 yrs.
Whatever your decisions are, they are your own. This program works when the person works the program AS INSTRUCTED. How long it is gonna take is not a question I can answer. It will vary. Don't get discouraged - keep @ it, take your time, be compassionate w/ yourself - empower yourself & recovery will be yours.
Your friend,
LENORE
Thank you for sharing with us. You are exactly right that it is a change of lifestyle. Here's to our new ways of thinking and being in the world!