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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:56 pm
by xlostgirlx
I HAVEN'T SLEPT FROM MY ANXIETY AND THE LAST THING I NEEDED WAS A CALL FROM THIS PROGRAM. FOR THE 3RD TIME I KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT NO ONE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME AND KEEP CALLING ME 20 TIMES. I ALREADY TOLD WHO EVER THE HELL MAKES THE PHONE CALLS FOR THIS STRESS CENTER PROGRAM. I DO NOT HAVE A CREDIT CARD I DO NOT EVEN HAVE A JOB TO WORK BECAUSE OF MY ANXIETY BEING LOCKED UP IN MY HOUSE I AM STRUGGLING SO MUCH I FEEL LIKE IM NOT EVEN LIVING LIFE AND AM ALREADY DEAD JUST SITTING HERE IN THIS ROOM. AND SOMEONE FROM THIS PROGRAM CALLS ME JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO TELLING ME "OH THIS CAN SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS IT CAN HELP YOU IT HELPED ME ITS THE ANSWER PILLS ARE NOT THE ANSWER THEY DONT SOLVE THE PROBLEM THEIR LIKE A BAND-AID" WELL WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CREDIT CARD I GUESS IT CAN'T HELP AT ALL BECAUSE THAT PERSON JUST HUNG UP WITH A GOODBYE NICE DAY. YOU CAN'T TELL SOMEONE THIS TO GET ALL THEIR HOPES UP WHEN THEY TELL YOU THERE IS NO WAY OF GETTING THIS PROGRAM IM NEEDING IT BECAUSE I DONT HAVE A JOB OR MONEY IM READING THE STUFF ON THIS DAMN MESSAGE BOARD THAT PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND SEEING WHAT TO DO I DONT NEED NO DAMN PEOPLE FROM THIS PLACE CALLING ME TELLING ME OH IT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING WHEN ALL IT IS IS "MONEY MONEY MONEYYYY I WANT YOUR MONEYYYYYY" AND THE PILLS WORK IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE WHEN ALL THIS WAITING AND READING IS MAKING IT WORSE.... EVERYDAY ... IS A PANIC A FEAR.. TRAPT.. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO FEEL HELPLESS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE? WHAT IS IT LIKE TO FEEL HELPLESS? YOU THINK NOTHING CAN HELP AND WHEN YOU NEED THE HELP YOU CAN'T GET IT.. HOW DOES THAT FEEL . NOW I ASK HAS ANYONE EVER EXPIRINCED THIS? HOW DOES IT FEEL TO FEEL THIS HELPLESS.



NOTE: If the people from this program see this message. PLEASE STOP CALLING MY HOUSE. You have hurt me deeply and made me feel like writing this thread because this time YOU have created my panic instead of helped it.



I'm really scared and i don't know what to do anymore.. i've never been this scared in my life because i feel like no one is real.... no one cares not even my family i keep feeling no one will help .... i cant get it my mind keeps racing im angry then i feel helpless i dont mean to be angry but everyone upsets me everything is making it worse than it is why... wont it stop? how long do i wait? why can't i get helpp? why do you keep pushing me when i can't get this program??? im trying to read the books i dont have money.. im trying. im trying to get help. please ... i feel like the whole world is sitting still and cannot see ... they can't see i'm alone no one can see..

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:13 pm
by Guest
I'm sorry you are feeling helpless. Do you feel like the people calling you have caused you to feel this way, or that you are feeling this way on your own?

The first thing you have to do is take ownership and responsibility for your own feelings.

I think I can comfortably say that everyone who has gone through this program has felt hopeless and helpless. It comes with the territory, but there comes a time when you have to realize that *you* are the only person who is going to help yourself.

Have you told the people who are calling you to take you off their list? That is how you are to go about it, I doubt they come on this message board looking to see who they've been bothering.

You have to tell them "please remove my name and number from your calling list" that's all you have to do, and they will automatically remove you. It's no big deal.

There is no problem with this program costing money. People need to make a living, and the price of this program is far less than weeks of professional therapy that will get you only so far.

You can google tons of free resources online if that's what you are looking for, and you get what you pay for, and how much you put into it.

Your post seems more like a cry for help than anything. Check out the book section, you could probably get a number of these books from your library.

My advice to you, is to take control of your issues, and make a decision to turn your life around. Stop placing the blame on the outside sources, it's all inside of you, the problem *and* the solution.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:14 pm
by Guest
There's no way to describe feeling helpless. I jus know that it sucks. But from what I've learned in this program, is that no matter the life situation you are experiencing, it always passes. ALWAYS!

As far as for not having a CC to pay for the program...U don't need one. There's a daily raffle on the website that you can enter once a day. I bought my program and also won one. I loved the program so much, that I mailed the free one to my brother who is diagnosed with bilpolar.

There are ways around your situation. PM me if you'd like. I'd love to be ur friend. Peace n Love

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:40 pm
by Guest
So the books are basically the program? Its just very stressing hearing that this whole thing can help when i can't get it.. and my family who show it to me thinking it can change their mind saying that it won't work because all they want is your money. I don't know who to believe or what will work or what is real or not. Im confused and lost and scared and i feel helpless. And if there is a site to get all of this stuff on please let me know.. i've read and searched through alot of anxiety stuff but im still feeling the effects of anxiety i dont even know how long it will take to get better i am doing this for myself by myself with no support at all. Its hard. Right now on how i'm feeling i just want to take the pills and not even bother with all of this if i can't get it or find the help i need besides medication.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:07 pm
by NinjaFrodo
Mainly audio CDs to listen to and laugh/cry/ and definitely learn from. Workbooks are on the side w/ homework in them. It's a home school program for people with anxiety and depression. From what I can grasp from your response, I hope that you are seeking professional help and that the medications you're taking are prescribed drugs. Seek help if you haven't already, it's out there.

God Bless you!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:17 pm
by Guest
Thank you. I only see a therapist once every one or two months since its hard to get around or even ride in a car without having bad anxiety attacks. I'm not on any medication though. I was in 07 but i got off of it because it made me feel like a zombie and tired all the time not getting enough exersize either. Though it did help me when i had servere panic attacks every second.. constant panic disorder. But its not as bad as it was though i hope it will never be.. Thats when i REALLY need to get on them. But now i just feel more depressed than anything and the anxiety comes with it and if it all is too much then i will get a panic attack. But as easy as you make it sound with seeking help it isn't that easy.. not when you are isolated and afraid to go out or no one will take you there to get it.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:35 pm
by Guest
Have you asked your therapist if he/she is willing to perhaps do phone sessions with you?

You sound like you could benefit from some medication right now to get you to a functional level. I think that if you can't go out and you have chronic panic, it's time to take something so you can help yourself get better. It's just more depressing to sit inside and not feel understood, and that makes the panic worse. There are many different options and new medications, and if one doesn't make you feel better, you can try another. Maybe go real simple/basic and just get an as-needed anti-anxiety drug for now? If you feel all drugged out and zombie-like, it can simply be that the dosage is way too high for you.

Best of luck! (And yes, the program really works. It's very good, but I think you could get more out of it if you are in a slightly better place than what it sounds like right now.)

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:36 pm
by Guest
xlostgirlx there are reading recommendations in this forum, is what I meant. You can see if your local library or Amazon carries them. The program is also available on ebay and Amazon for reduced rates.

What do you mean by "all they want it is your money"? I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that this program should be given away for free? Aren't you spending money on therapists, prescriptions, etc?

If this program was given away for free, first of all, Lucinda and any other investors in the program would *lose* money. This program is very thorough, very well-made and very worth the investment. I can tell it wasn't cheap to put together.

Secondly if this program was given away, there would be no value in it, and people wouldn't go through the program. People tend not to put effort into things that have no value.

Thirdly, the creator(s) of this program have every right to charge something for it. We live in a free enterprise system, and for someone who took so much time and effort and money to put this program together, that has helped so many people, I say all the power to them to charge for it.

What I like about this program is that you know you aren't alone in the way you are feeling, it is very down to earth, they don't try to put the blame on your parents, it gives *you* control.

No matter the way we are brought up, we are now responsible for ourselves, for our behavior and our future. Pointing fingers and placing blame wastes time on our recovery. If we place blame on our parents, then we have to place blame on our grandparents and so on, what is the point and where does it end?

If you are already spending money on therapists, why wouldn't you get the program - it was worth every penny for me!

It is a little strange that you are sort of dissing this program, however you are on this forum for free which is being paid for by Lucinda. This is a support forum for people on the program, and you are already receiving support at no cost to you.

So I hope you reconsider investing in this program, or any anxiety program for that matter. As I mentioned, try googling anxiety programs and books, you will come up with a ton.

Take action for yourself, you will be happy you did.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:02 pm
by Guest
Ok i have a question does medication work faster than the program? how much time does the program take for it to start working and helping? is it a year thing ?

also

i think i sort of have a right to blame my parents for showing me this program then telling me that they can't get it for me to help me because they think its too expensive and said that they only want money.

And yes i pay the therapist but only Once every 1 or 2 months not every day or every single month, and it is only 70 for that day. I also got a book she was nice enough to give me to help on TATs.

Though the point was my parents upsetting me about showing me this program then teasing me saying they cannot get it to help. Also was upset with the people calling from this program who keeps calling here telling me about it asking for a credit card. I have another question.. how come it says Free on the page? .... im confused.. I actually do want this program don't get me wrong but i'm having the hardest time getting it.. i guess i will have to take your advice and google.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:24 am
by Guest
hi, im sorry you are feeling this way. I cant afford to buy the progarm myself but I have a couple books. One is Lucinda's. I'd be happy you mail you a couple books(won't cost you a thing), they are quite helpful. Please let me know, it's a start to at least help you begin thinking in a differant way.