You are right I wouldn't do those kinds of things now, in fact I impress manners and responsiblity on my kids like it's going out of style. I guess I'm trying to relive my youth through them.
Well, all this to say, I don't ever wish to go back in time to 're-do' it all, as I may not be where I am now (think It's a Wonderful Life), that is with nearly 18 years of happy marriage and 3 great kids and on my way to being free of my anxiety. I just hate it when I can't get the wheels to stop turning in my brain and I can't change the channel, know what I mean.
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Hi Shifrah,
Thanks about the song. It is from the Heaven in the real world, released in 1994. It is the 6th song.
Yes, I have wronged many people in my lifetime. To all that I sought forgiveness from, I am sorry but I didn't hang on to any recollection of them, as I was freed from that guilt.
Truly that is how this works, and how our minds work. The young Irish Catholic person expressed it well. We know that we are forgiven and that Jesus paid for all our sins, but if we do not acknowledge our sins, our trespasses, debts, wrongs, mistakes, whatever you wish to call them, we cannot truly feel free of the guilt or baggage. The person that simply wanted to dwell on the incident is still holding on to the baggage, and yet, you are free to move on. Do you see that now?
I once took a course on Investigative techniques, and this is one thing that detectives know: Get to the perpetrator first, gain his confidence, make the perp feel that the detective is in control and that the detective is a father confessor, and make the perp feel that he needs to do confess to feel that sense of freedom he or she needs. The police have to try to do this before the perp gives it up to someone else that may never come forward.
This concept is so simple that it is often over looked, or blown off by many that simply say: it really doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter, why do detectives and criminal investigators place importance on this simple principle? Because it is true and it works. They also knew then that more than 90% of convictions come from confessions. Think about it, the majority of criminal offenses are not murder and bank robberies or other very serious crimes as many would have us all believe.
Quite simply, without the confession, we cannot feel the sense of freedom we all need. It is just how we are wired. Thank God we are wired that way, can you imagine a world full of people with no sense of guilt or conscience?
I wish you all a great day,
Gman
Thanks about the song. It is from the Heaven in the real world, released in 1994. It is the 6th song.
Yes, I have wronged many people in my lifetime. To all that I sought forgiveness from, I am sorry but I didn't hang on to any recollection of them, as I was freed from that guilt.
Truly that is how this works, and how our minds work. The young Irish Catholic person expressed it well. We know that we are forgiven and that Jesus paid for all our sins, but if we do not acknowledge our sins, our trespasses, debts, wrongs, mistakes, whatever you wish to call them, we cannot truly feel free of the guilt or baggage. The person that simply wanted to dwell on the incident is still holding on to the baggage, and yet, you are free to move on. Do you see that now?
I once took a course on Investigative techniques, and this is one thing that detectives know: Get to the perpetrator first, gain his confidence, make the perp feel that the detective is in control and that the detective is a father confessor, and make the perp feel that he needs to do confess to feel that sense of freedom he or she needs. The police have to try to do this before the perp gives it up to someone else that may never come forward.
This concept is so simple that it is often over looked, or blown off by many that simply say: it really doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter, why do detectives and criminal investigators place importance on this simple principle? Because it is true and it works. They also knew then that more than 90% of convictions come from confessions. Think about it, the majority of criminal offenses are not murder and bank robberies or other very serious crimes as many would have us all believe.
Quite simply, without the confession, we cannot feel the sense of freedom we all need. It is just how we are wired. Thank God we are wired that way, can you imagine a world full of people with no sense of guilt or conscience?
I wish you all a great day,
Gman
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Thanks Gman - very interesting about perps and detectives. I never thought about it that way.
Yes, I see that about the other friend with the misunderstanding. I think if I ever tried to bring it up or apologize for the misunderstanding she would never forgive me straight off, I think she'd try to analyze the situation and/or tell me how I should have gone about it. That is why I chose to release the relationship 8 years ago when it happened. She holds on to a lot of baggage and it is sad. Well she did back then, I have no idea how or if she grew over the past 8 years since it has happened.
Well the friend that I sent an acknowledgment to yesterday of my wrong doings (from Elementary School) never really responded to it. She did send me a different email and has been continuing to tag me in childhood photos on facebook. So she doesn't seem to hold any grudges but chose not to even reply to or address what I wrote. Maybe some kind of avoidance of getting into serious issues or something. I don't know what to make of it but I am considering it a closed book for now. I do feel a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
I think it's interesting that there could be so many different replies to an apology. You have people who will embrace it, others ignore the apology all together but just want to continue the relationship, then there are those who can't accept the apology right off but want to egg on the person or "get to the bottom" of things.
Yes, I see that about the other friend with the misunderstanding. I think if I ever tried to bring it up or apologize for the misunderstanding she would never forgive me straight off, I think she'd try to analyze the situation and/or tell me how I should have gone about it. That is why I chose to release the relationship 8 years ago when it happened. She holds on to a lot of baggage and it is sad. Well she did back then, I have no idea how or if she grew over the past 8 years since it has happened.
Well the friend that I sent an acknowledgment to yesterday of my wrong doings (from Elementary School) never really responded to it. She did send me a different email and has been continuing to tag me in childhood photos on facebook. So she doesn't seem to hold any grudges but chose not to even reply to or address what I wrote. Maybe some kind of avoidance of getting into serious issues or something. I don't know what to make of it but I am considering it a closed book for now. I do feel a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
I think it's interesting that there could be so many different replies to an apology. You have people who will embrace it, others ignore the apology all together but just want to continue the relationship, then there are those who can't accept the apology right off but want to egg on the person or "get to the bottom" of things.
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The beautiful thing about God is that he knows what we've done and he still loves us unconditionally. God knew what you were going to do before you even did it! Accept his forgiveness and move on to the next level but remember with the next level comes a new Devil. 
Post a blog on your facebook page and make an apology to those that you have hurt in the past. You'll be surprised how good you will feel.
Sister
Post a blog on your facebook page and make an apology to those that you have hurt in the past. You'll be surprised how good you will feel.
Sister
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Thank you. I think reconnecting with all those kids from Elementary School was healing. I feel a lot better now than when I started this thread. It has been interesting getting reacquainted with some of these folks. I believe this whole process was meant to be, and it feels like more weight has come off of me for it.
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Shifrah...if you asked God for forgiveness and you truely ment it....he forgave you and washed you clean...so why are you still carrying it?
I have read several of your posts you are so kind and compassionate to others what about yourself? We all know we can not change the past but you can choose to move forward and live our change everday...
Have you told these people your life is much differnt now?
Don't go backwards and get stuck...God has a plan for you now today...He loves you....
I have read several of your posts you are so kind and compassionate to others what about yourself? We all know we can not change the past but you can choose to move forward and live our change everday...
Have you told these people your life is much differnt now?
Don't go backwards and get stuck...God has a plan for you now today...He loves you....
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hey there... i just found the support system online and i'm also completing week 9 on guilt and worry... i've been stuck in the past guilt thing for about 40 days now and am really tired of it all...
just to let you know, my husband is a minister and Lord knows why i'm in this job right now... but i have the wonderful opportunity to hear alot of guilt stories... (thanks???) anyway... to be going through it now must have a purpose i'm not yet aware of...
i sure do LOVE God/Jesus/Holy Spirit... and i love His Word... in Isaiah 43:18 He says, "Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past." v.19 "See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland."...
and then in Isaiah 54:4 "Do not be afraid; you will not suffer shame. Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated. You will forget the shame of your youth and remember no more the reproach of you widowhood. v.5 For you Maker is your husband--the LORD Almighty is His name-- the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; He is called the God of all the earth...v.7 "For a brief moment I abandoned you, but with deep compassion I will bring you back..." (my "Brief moment" started December 24...) but whatever it takes... to God be the glory!
..... thanks for sharing this problem... you have helped me ...
just to let you know, my husband is a minister and Lord knows why i'm in this job right now... but i have the wonderful opportunity to hear alot of guilt stories... (thanks???) anyway... to be going through it now must have a purpose i'm not yet aware of...
i sure do LOVE God/Jesus/Holy Spirit... and i love His Word... in Isaiah 43:18 He says, "Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past." v.19 "See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland."...
and then in Isaiah 54:4 "Do not be afraid; you will not suffer shame. Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated. You will forget the shame of your youth and remember no more the reproach of you widowhood. v.5 For you Maker is your husband--the LORD Almighty is His name-- the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; He is called the God of all the earth...v.7 "For a brief moment I abandoned you, but with deep compassion I will bring you back..." (my "Brief moment" started December 24...) but whatever it takes... to God be the glory!
..... thanks for sharing this problem... you have helped me ...
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KeithJoy:
Thanks so much for those scriptures.
Just some of the ones I needed right now.
I've been in my desert and wasteland since January 8th.
Time to let the healing streams flow thru' me.
It has been a tough month for me.
But some fantastic posts on here are shedding some light for me.
Take care.
Blessings.
MJ
Thanks so much for those scriptures.
Just some of the ones I needed right now.
I've been in my desert and wasteland since January 8th.
Time to let the healing streams flow thru' me.
It has been a tough month for me.
But some fantastic posts on here are shedding some light for me.
Take care.
Blessings.
MJ
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Hi Shifrah, and all-
I found another beautiful song that teaches us of forgiveness, and how important it is to us to getting over our guilt feelings and how forgiveness plays a part in our healing:
It is Song #10, but the whole album is beautiful:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...hegreatadventure.htm
May it all be a blessing to all of you as it is to me and my heart's cry.
I found another beautiful song that teaches us of forgiveness, and how important it is to us to getting over our guilt feelings and how forgiveness plays a part in our healing:
It is Song #10, but the whole album is beautiful:
http://www.stevencurtischapman...hegreatadventure.htm
May it all be a blessing to all of you as it is to me and my heart's cry.